My latest...a Rem 700 SA rebarreled in .450 Marlin arrived today....now for the 10-day California wait until I can take it out and shoot.

DB Bill more details please, barrel length ?? Stainless ??, sights Picture ???

Trued Rem 700 action, 22" Pac-Nor SS barrel, NECG sights, and a black MPI stock (came with the rifle) with all metal done up in black...will probably put Talley's on it with a Weaver Grand Slam 1.5x5x32 scope. I will also put a barrel band on it to save my left hand and it will be going for a Vais muzzle brake before I start serious load work. The way it sits right now it weighs just under 6 1/2 pounds. Will post some photos when I get in out of the California Quaranteen of 10 days.

Additional....I bought it at the suggestion of a friend who had shot it....3 shots touching at 100 yards with 350gr Barnes-X bullets that went thru the chonograph at 2150 fps (3590 ftlbs of muzzle energy). He said the recoil was "interesting".

[ 08-14-2002, 19:37: Message edited by: DB Bill ]

DB Bill - work / hunt with Mike, the guy that sold you the 450 - hope you are pleased with the rifle, Mike (and Dave of Nitro Guns in Wasilla) have built several nice rifles - lastest is a light, about 8.5 - 9 lbs., 375 ultra built on a Winchester 70 - watching him pull the trigger on that was amusing - I'm confident that with some load development and tinkering, you should have a mighty fine thumper - try some 460 grain gas check cast bullets from Cast Performance if you want some "up close and personal" sort of fun - good luck with the rifle - KMule

DB Bill - try www.castperformance.com for a good variety of casts - I spoke with Kelly, he was very helpful - the fax # 307/857-3132 and phone # 307/857-2940 - check the website first as it has considerable info - I think you can achieve 1800 FPS with the 450 in this rifle with very good accuracy - Kelly may be able to supply more info on loads - good luck and have fun - KMule

You ought to be able to easily get 2000 fps with the cast performance 460 grain bullet in a 450 bolt gun maybe 2100. Assuming the throat is long enough to allow you to seat the bullet out to the max length that the action will allow.

Get the lee factory crimp die and you can crimp it between the lube grooves.

The thing that most people don't realize about straight wall cartridges is that with heavy bullets powder capacity is limited by the COAL and the length and seating depth of the bullet.

Heavier bullets eat up case capacity. Assuming that you can load the bullet to a COAL of 3.00 inches the effective case capacity will be almost equal to a 458 Mag. The effect is even greater with 500 grain bullets. When loaded out to the same over all length in the 450 marlin as the 458 win. The 450 Marllin would have approximtely the same effective powder capacity as a 458 Mag and should give the similar performance.


Just my thoughts on the subject.
Jeff

jnc91.....just the thought of that kind of velocity with that weight bullet (in my less than 7 lb rifle) scares the hell out of me and my orthopedist.

DB Bill - Mike used to shoot an 8 lb. 458 win mag with full house loads; that would get one's attention KMule

DB,
If you've shot 458 or 416, you'll be less than amazed with the recoil. In the guidegun, the recoil is sharp, but not bad, and in a bolt (okay, i've shot the 458x2" in a bolt, but it's the same thing)it's a pop gun.. really. it's not even 375 hh recoil, in a decent weight gun.
cheers
jeffe

DB Bill - tell us how you like the rifle??? KMule

Send us a picture of the rifle and a few groups! (Don't worry we all know what your shoulder will look like.) BTW, if you do get really bothered by recoil in an extended shooting session a PAST wus pad isn't a bad investment.

I couldn't handle the 10 day wait!

Best,
QD

Guys I have to confess that I just picked it up the other day and haven't had much of a chance to do anything except admire it...it sure is a "cute" lookin' little boomer. I've sent off for a new scope. ordered a few boxes of factory ammo (came with some brass), and a whole variety of bullets for reloading. Now all I need to do is get some RL7, the appropriate primers and decide if I want to leave the Talley bases on and spring for the Talley rings or take the bases off and put on some Leupold Dual Dovetail that I have.

Just a soon as it goes to the range I will take some photos and post them....I am very familar with the PAST shoulder pad and will be using it for sure.

[ 09-01-2002, 06:58: Message edited by: DB Bill ]

Howdy,
Try either benchmark or rl15, rl7 might be a tad too fast.
jeffe