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22 August 2011, 11:02
Nakihunter
Found this In India
Interesting rifle. Looks like a reasonable piece. I am not sure how frosty the bore is. The photo is very low res. The chamber seems to be reflecting the rifling...

It wil cost me $1500 and total at the end of importation into NZ probably all up $2500. I am also looking at another square bridge model which is older. Still awaitng photos.






















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22 August 2011, 11:35
500N
Weird looking chamber.

Is that a reflection of the rifling or something else because it definitely looks like it has a spiral to it.

Otherwise looks OK.

Pity you can't bring the ammo with it.

.
22 August 2011, 13:53
Phatman
You might want to try shooting some paper patch loads through it to clean up the bore.
You can ask anyone that shoots paper patch bullets, the bore will be like a mirror.

Very nice find.

If you pull the bullets and deprimer can you bring the separated bullets and cases into your country?

Cheers, John


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22 August 2011, 16:49
jeffeosso
i am building one in the same caliber, with very similar looks


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22 August 2011, 17:12
srose
Nakihunter,

Thats what you always wanted besides my 450-400. Nice looking gun.

Sam
22 August 2011, 18:37
Biebs
Now THERE'S a classic rifle!
22 August 2011, 18:47
500N
quote:
Originally posted by Phatman:
If you pull the bullets and deprimer can you bring the separated bullets and cases into your country?

Cheers, John



He can take the ammo if he does it on a plane but I am assuming he is freighting it, hence my comment.

But in answer to your question, yes, then it would just be components, not live ammo.


I do like the lines of the gun.

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22 August 2011, 19:28
RIP
Nice rifle, 10.75x68, what a steal!
My mistake thinking 10.75x73 whenever I see a 10.75x68 "minimal shoulder."
22 August 2011, 19:30
Huvius
Nice TypeB.
That bore looks quite nice to me - really sharp rifling by the looks of it.
As for the ammo, decapping the cases would most likely ruin the primers - thinking they are Berdan primed, and then finding those primers to reload is getting very difficult anymore.

You must get pictures of the square bridge up.
I am awaiting the arrival of a double square bridge, solid left wall Oberndorf in 10.75X68 as we speak! Can't wait!
22 August 2011, 19:30
Robgunbuilder
Neat gun. At first I though it might have been rebored from the caliber markings( didn't think Mauser would ever have allowed such misalligned numbers to exit the factory, but after looking harder and from the misalligned GERMANY markings I now think its original.). Any traces of old numbers on the other side of the barrel? The action was black powder proofed ( Sideways (crownB) at oberndorf. A nitro proof was crown N.The GERMANY on the breech shows it was an export gun. Period lugers have similar markings. I am not an expert on these early Mausers so someone else can chime in on this.-Rob


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23 August 2011, 03:36
Oldsarge
What an absolutely elegant rifle! If you could get decent solids in .421, it would make a fine Class I DGR. As it is it would roll anything in NZ and do a splendid job on any soft skinned game on the planet. Great find.


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23 August 2011, 03:41
Nakihunter
Sam, Yes I always wanted one since my dad had a FN in this caliber and shot leopards with it. How is "my" 450/400 doing? Big Grin


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23 August 2011, 04:17
Dewey
I have one with an identical stock, but, the inside trigger guard release button and much better overall condition. Mine has a pristine bbl., most original blue and not a "pit" anywhere on it and it came from "Darkest Africa" sometime, years ago. It is a 9.3x62, made in 1937 and it shoots sub-moa consistently.

I do not care for the drop in the stock and while I have EAWs and a scope on it, I never hunt with it for this reason. These are simply superb rifles and made the way a rifle should be.
23 August 2011, 06:20
Magnum Hunter1
Thats the real thing right there. I wish we knew its history.
31 August 2011, 10:42
Huvius
The DSB got here!
Restocked and a little pitting here and there but a really nice rifle overall.






31 August 2011, 21:18
degoins
NICE!!


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01 September 2011, 02:08
Dago Red
Both of those are great looking rifles! That first one has so much character. the double square bridge though, I guess because I don't have one I lust after them. Love the way that one is marked too. thanks for sharing pics guys.

Red


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01 September 2011, 09:31
Huvius
Didn't mean to highjack the thread. Just had to show the DSB.
Eventhough the wood is wrong in nearly every respect as far as grain flow, it fills that inner yearning for an uncut double square bridge Mauser and they just don't come up that often.
I hope that Nakihunter gets ahold of the square bridge he mentioned earlier. Can't get enough of them!
01 September 2011, 11:59
eagle27
quote:
Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Sam, Yes I always wanted one since my dad had a FN in this caliber and shot leopards with it. How is "my" 450/400 doing? Big Grin


Very nice find Naki, like RobGB I too thought for a moment that it might have been a rebore but on looking at my own Oberndorf .404 which started life as a 10.75x68, Mauser did not seem to take too much care in aligning the digits in their serial numbers.

Anyway look what I've got, just wave them under your nose a little, 347gr projectiles just made for the 10.75x68.


01 September 2011, 17:48
Bockhunter
Nice old german gun.
Please ask her, if she can tell us her hunting storys.
:-)


01 September 2011, 20:13
Robgunbuilder
Interesting the DSB is marked exactly as I would expect from Mauser in that time period. However, with that said, I have seen Hand Stamped Caliber markings and even serial numbers on lugers that are completely original. I've learned to never say never when it comes to old guns. They are so neat though! You guys have good taste!-Rob


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01 September 2011, 20:48
drewhenrytnt
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AWESOME!!


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03 September 2011, 09:36
Nakihunter
Lovely DSB. Thanks for sharing.


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03 September 2011, 18:15
RIP


Huvius,
She is beautiful.
I would call her "Passion" or maybe "Pasha."
That purple extractor must be a properly heat treated one, spring steel that will never fail, eh?

Since the grain flow of the beautiful wood is questionable, and this is a substantial kicker in a light weight rifle:
Does it have a hidden crossbolt between the magazine and trigger wells?
Does it have a rod through the grip?
Is it glass bedded throughout, with pillars?
All of that would be easy to do,
and would leave no visible sign externally:
nice grip cap to hide the grip rod/allthread buried in epoxy, etc.
It's not the original wood anyway, and you know you are going to be doing a lot of shooting with that piece, right?
If the weight of the grip rod affects the perfect balance, then correct it with a bit of lead buried in the forearm,
glassed over in the barrel channel.

Why, I could do all of that for you, if you would just send it to me to play with for a while after I finished reinforcing that beauty ... Wink
03 September 2011, 18:25
reddy375
Finding it in India is one thing, getting it out of India is another story. Good luck!
05 September 2011, 02:08
Jas Madhavan
Reddy375 and Naki,
If either of you guys can tell me how to get a gun out of the country please let me know. My Dad has a .30cal M1 carbine that I would love to repatriate to the US, but have no idea how to go about it. No one in India seems to have a clue.
Thanks
Jas


Jas Madhavan
05 September 2011, 02:53
500N
quote:
Originally posted by RIP:

That purple extractor must be a properly heat treated one, spring steel that will never fail, eh?



Certain metal from certain era's used to go a Purple colour after a while. Some H&H guns are notorius for this.


Getting guns out of India - a lot of Bribery and Corruption and heartache from what I hear and getting around some sort of ban makes it hard even with the above.

.
10 September 2011, 15:54
Nakihunter
Just spoke to a friend who has identified a 10.75X68 Mauser in NZ & it is Schul rifle with octogon to round barrel with a full rib - just like my Simson 9.3. I cannot wait to see pictures and buy it if possible / affordable / worth it.

Watch this space


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10 September 2011, 20:47
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