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Westley Richards, still knows how. NEW PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09 August 2006, 17:24
Bent FossdalWestley Richards, still knows how. NEW PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I do not like the scope mount, nor the front sight,the comb should be strighter and the angel of the gripcap is to steep, but all by all so beautiful I had to share it!
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
09 August 2006, 18:04
RustyVery nice!
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09 August 2006, 18:40
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09 August 2006, 18:43
fla3006Near perfect, what a classic rifle should look like. Love the open grip, drop at heel, short forearm.
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09 August 2006, 19:24
analog_peninsulaVery nice, but the first scratch would have to be followed by a ritual suicide.

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09 August 2006, 19:41
brianboWestley Richard's makes a stunningly handsome gun. It would be my guess that every facet of that gun is variable based on the desires of whomever commissioned the work.
This way or that way, they still build a beautiful gun. The first Westley I bought was built around 1845-1850. The metalwork was remarkable, as was the technology. The gun had been restocked in India and it (the stock) was less remarkable.
Thanks for the picture.
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09 August 2006, 19:49
WinkBent, I agree with you about the sights and scope mount, but I like just about everything concerning the stock geometry.
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09 August 2006, 20:41
465H&HI would take it even with all it's faults.

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09 August 2006, 21:12
577NitroExpressPerfect, just perfect.
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If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming... 09 August 2006, 21:16
PRDATORWOW
So how much does that thing cost?

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09 August 2006, 21:31
Bill/OregonStunning. Agree about first scratch-ritual suicide. The rifle appears to be built on a military action though, judging by the thumb cutout at the clip guide. Wonder which action.
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09 August 2006, 21:44
Bent FossdalPrice tag reads about 25000 USD. OK; but how they can charge 15K just for the action, without the safety, trigger and scopemount is somewhat curious to me. 15K for reworking an old Mauser action?
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
09 August 2006, 21:49
Bent FossdalOK, here is the lux model, at 75K.
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
09 August 2006, 21:51
Magnum Hunter1I just want to know what kind of finish is on the stock????????
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10 August 2006, 00:06
KennethIquote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
What kind of wood is this? Thanks.
10 August 2006, 02:02
oldunBent,
What don't you like about the fore sight?
Whilst I'm not shure, it's difficult to tell from the photograph, I think the fore sight is one of the pivoting fold back type.
Right or wrong it's a great rifle.
The Lux model is beyond my little grasp of the language to do it justice
Thanks for posting the pictures.
I have been wrong before, my wife tells me so.
10 August 2006, 02:14
duikermanTwo beautiful works of art!!!!!
Both over my budget but I can still admire the work.
I alkso agree with the scope mounts and the front sight. I'd opt for something different.
10 August 2006, 03:05
KimRhope its a light recoiling cal so the scope doesnt eviscerate shooters orbit.think any number of primo gunsmiths could it for 1/2 the price&group size.
10 August 2006, 03:29
Bryan ChickThat front sight looks like the one that was on a 450-400 double that I owned about 18 years ago. It had a flip up night sight which was very nice.
10 August 2006, 05:19
Paolo9,5x73Aren't those Uncle Mike's sling swivels?
Nice fondling gun.
The foresight is the patented hinged variety they use on all their best guns. The scope mounts are Holland & Holland and appear on most best English guns.
10 August 2006, 05:42
Gila JorgeGeorgeous....absolutely. Even the standard grade blows the socks off what I've seen routinely made here.
10 August 2006, 05:49
lb404Isn't the scope mount a H&H clone? If it is, there is NOTHING made that will come close to repeatability in a quick detatchable mount. It is low and sturdy. What do you NOT like about it.
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10 August 2006, 11:29
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by lb404:
Isn't the scope mount a H&H clone? If it is, there is NOTHING made that will come close to repeatability in a quick detatchable mount. It is low and sturdy. What do you NOT like about it.
What I do not like is this: This looks, splendid, yea? It really does. And that is the problem, this pick have been set up to look as good as possible. That is a Smith&Bender scope with anormal eye-relief of about 3,5". If this scope was plased to fit its shooter , A;How would it look, B;Could it even been placed to fit the shooter? That scope needs to come foreward at least 1,5". Besides, I really do not think it looks very good, and that is what I do not like about the front sight too. It is really not as gracefull as what is delivered from NECC. But hey, that is just MY opinion.
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
10 August 2006, 13:03
WinkBent, it looks to me like there is some room to move that scope forward within the rings, although it won't be as visually balanced. It would be more flexible if the front mount were on the receiver ring, at least in terms of a more forward mounting. As for the front sights,I agree with you, there are better looking front sights and besides they look quite small and probably hard to pick up.
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10 August 2006, 15:10
lb404quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Price tag reads about 25000 USD. OK; but how they can charge 15K just for the action, without the safety, trigger and scopemount is somewhat curious to me. 15K for reworking an old Mauser action?
IMHO There is nothing made in Europe that can not be made better in the USA and for much less. When I go to SCI, Reno, I am amazed at the prices some European manufacturers charge for their offerings. Then I go to the Custom Gunmakers Guild show and see real quality work for similar goods and the price is so much easier on the wallet.
square shooter
10 August 2006, 15:14
Irish Paulquote:
Originally posted by lb404:
quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Price tag reads about 25000 USD. OK; but how they can charge 15K just for the action, without the safety, trigger and scopemount is somewhat curious to me. 15K for reworking an old Mauser action?
IMHO There is nothing made in Europe that can not be made better in the USA and for much less. When I go to SCI, Reno, I am amazed at the prices some European manufacturers charge for their offerings. Then I go to the Custom Gunmakers Guild show and see real quality work for similar goods and the price is so much easier on the wallet.
lb404 - Parmesan cheese is better here and cheaper too!!!
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10 August 2006, 22:46
jens poulsenWhat an ugly gun

I would much rather have a Ruger or savage rifle

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11 August 2006, 00:09
Jarrodquote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Well, I do not like the scope mount, nor the front sight,the comb should be strighter and the angel of the gripcap is to steep, but all by all so beautiful I had to share it!
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11 August 2006, 03:32
bradheWhere is it for sale?
11 August 2006, 03:35
CowboyHow can you print the whole picture? When I try I just get the barrel.
This is a piece of art.
Thanks
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11 August 2006, 03:59
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by Cowboy:
How can you print the whole picture? When I try I just get the barrel.
This is a piece of art.
Thanks
Cowboy, I assume you are using windows xp, click on save file, put it in your photo file. Then print from your photo file.
11 August 2006, 06:25
PeterI don't think I have seen wood like that, finished like that!
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11 August 2006, 07:18
Gringo CazadorI've looked at that pic before, its a really nice rifle. I keep saying I'm going to try to build a pattern as close to that as I can, but haven't got around to it.
I cut and pasted it and drew some lines to try to figure out how much drop at the heel, nose and leading edge to grip cap and etc. But not real sure of some of the meauserments.
Best guess its about 1/2" drop at the nose, 1 1/2 at the heel, not sure the rest. Would guess it to be about 5 1/2 at the butt, not sure how wide.
Also thought the distance from the forend to the bb swivel was interesting, if I mounted one out that far everybody would tell me I mounted it out to far, but really looks nice on that gun
I would guess it to be about a 9 1/2" forearm also.
Really nice pice of wood.
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11 August 2006, 11:16
bulldog563OK, so what kind of wood is that and where can I get some?
11 August 2006, 14:13
WoodjackUS$75k for the Lux model.
Ive tried, but I cannot reach that figure with the WR BoltGun Builder:
http://www.westleyrichards.com/gun/new_build_bolt_1.htmlBest I could do was BP16,060(US$30,470.)without engraving option.
Does that mean the engraving shown is BP23,476/US$44530 ??
Yes,that Std.Grade WR-M98 is a fine looking rig.
11 August 2006, 14:53
Bent Fossdalquote:
Originally posted by Woodjack:
US$75k for the Lux model.
Ive tried, but I cannot reach that figure with the WR BoltGun Builder:
http://www.westleyrichards.com/gun/new_build_bolt_1.htmlBest I could do was BP16,060(US$30,470.)without engraving option.Does that mean the engraving shown is BP23,476/US$44530 ??
Yes,that Std.Grade WR-M98 is a fine looking rig.
Some funny stuff here.
Theese picks were downloaded from WR's homepage 2 years ago.The shop chart did not exist then, they only differed on Standard and Lux. I may remember wrong, but I think the Lux version on the pick above is somewhat "more" than an average DeLux rifle on todays shop-shart. Think about it, they charge 7750BP for a reworked old M98, but, only 2950BP for their DeLux engraving?

I will contact my friend at Purdey's and ask what engraving like the Lux above costs.
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway
11 August 2006, 15:13
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11 August 2006, 17:39
Paolo9,5x73Yes, it would go nicely with ascot by Versace and a Pudelpointer on a leash.
It would be hard to take guy toting this thing in the field seriously.