the fact that you are even considering hsooting 270 grainers at 3300 fps prooves you are a better man than me

I'm with AC on this one. The idea that some one can speak of necking DOWN the .505 and still have the gall to call it "improved" boggles my little mind.

Just got my .505 reloading components in today and I'm still shaking my head

PC,
Yes I might get one later on to design a gibbs based wildcat on.

Karl.

Karl,

If Norma comes out with the brass then a 375/505 Improved with the neck shortened would be good.

A 375/505 Improved (assuming decent brass) should equal the velocity of the 300 Remington Ultra for bullets of equal sectional density. Should go over 3300 without problems with 270 grainers.

Should be a real roo bomber with the 225 Hornady spire points

Mike

Personally, I am waiting to see how many of these are actually produced. Every year gun companies announce things that never happen, or at least take several more years to hit the stores. The .505 Gibbs has never been a big seller and won't be this time either. IT will always be a specialty item for those crazies who just have to have one. Several people out of the couple of hundred or so that read this board every day like the .505, but this pretty much has half of all the .505 lovers in the world covered. Hell, if you only read this board, you would think you could get .404 ammo made by Remington and Winchester down at your local Wal Mart.

Given the inherently low numbers that would ever be sold, i see very little chance of CZ changing their action-meaning a .700" bolt body. I am very curious to see how they build the rifles. I am bulding a .416 for a guy right now on a CZ and if it had been shot as it came from the factory, the stock would have litlerally exploded. Hope they can do a better job with the Gibbs, assuming they actually make them.


I would be very surprised to see any ammo makers start to do much with the .505. happy, but surprised.

These 505 Gibbs CZ's will make really good starting materials for .600 OK's.Nearly all the action work will be done up front for you. I will buy all the 505 Gibbs CZ actions I can find!-Rob

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I don't suppose they would have the decency to put the bolt over on the left side for the hopelessly left handed. Mart

Certainly in European countries where the bolt must be removed from the receiver for transportation, the current CZ dimensions are a bit thin. The concern is the possibiity (in my case a very GOOD possiblility) of dropping the bolt and damaging the bolt face. However here, where the need for separate transport is non-existant, that is much less bothersome. Otherwise, I don't believe that the 550 is all that different from the magnum Mausers that Gibbs used back in the good ol' days. It will work just fine . . . with a new safety setup, of course!

I shall be patient, there will be a lot of those on the used market in time and with very few rounds shot through them..then I will pick one up, restock it, add a muzzle brake and thread protector, take a bottle of Aspirin and shoot away....Maybe plunk another buffalo or 5 with it.....

I'm with you! Except that I'll just load it to the original ballistics, which aren't that far off my .450 Rigby. With a couple of buffers (I know, you don't believe in them) and enough weight to bring it up to, say, 11 lbs, it shouldn't be too unpleasant off sticks or leaning against a tree. I'll sissy-bag it off the bench, though! Frontal area 'R' us.

when we all talked about this so long ago I got the impression from Systeme98's post that the 550 was a good action for the Gibbs with the bolts modifications that he laid out that I believe were the same way it was done way back in the beginning. I really want and need one too, there is this rock I shoot at some times that just won't split In seriousness, the last couple posts were right, I'll wait till some yuppy guy, the ones who bring their fluted barrel ultra remington rigs to the range with their 700 dollar spotting scope and shoot 10 rounds before getting back in their Benz and leaving, let them buy it first, hurt themselves and then I will buy it.

The 404 though sounds fantastic. Alas no new guns this year, hopefully finish my 458 and that will be it, new house in January. plus need to start planning some sort of hunt before all the opportunities disappear.

Red

Red,
The .404 will indeed be sweet. Who knows, maybe this will be the rebirth so many of us have been waiting for. However, so many guns, so little dough. My '05 rifle is at the 'smith's being assembled, thanks to you, Arthur Olds, Duckhunter and my late friend Al Buck. Hopefully, sometime during the coming year Monster Slayer will sell or I will get a part-time job that will pay for Perry's Pedersoli and its conversion. In '07 I hope to pick up a gas-auto 20 gauge to take to S. America. Maybe by '08 some punch-drunk benchrest pug will decide to get rid of his Big 505, uh-hope, uh-hope, uh-hope!

Old sarge don't take your own 20 ga to SA. Rent one of their guns. If you haven't been there you will not believe the beating those shotguns take down there. More birds than you can imagine. In three days twelve of us shot almost 27,000 birds. You can't load your gun fast enough. I decided after the first day to use a 12 rather than a 20 since it doesn't tear up your thumb up so bad. Good hunting.

Mike,
The brass is indeed the key. I was even thinking of necking down to 9.3 just for the german angle and to complicate things unnecessarily as I tend to do.

Karl.

Karl.

Probably the best calibre might be 35 and one reason being all the bore diameters and twists that Tobler makes.

He does .356, .357, .358 and 1 in 12, 14, 16 and 18.

The only thing about coming under 375 is powder might get a bit iffy.

Mike