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Just wondering which scope and mounts works well on a CZ 550 mag in 375. Seems like an extention front ring is in order, unless you use a straight tube scope Thanks, Arjun | ||
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As of a year ago, CZ did not market an extended front ring for the CZ although they are produced and marketed in the Czech Republic as a one-piece, short mounting length scope mount. Better news is that the Nikon 2-8 Monach scope fits on the CZ 550 safari magnum. I've done 4 on 416's. There is nothing more rugged than the Nikon Monarch. Fantastic. And the glass and tracking ability are excellent. The eye-relief of 4" is more than adequate for a medium bore. I've used 4" on 6000ftlb loads without eye-kissing problems. Many have testified to the 2.5-8 Leupold, which is also excellent and I've used it in the past. However, the Leupold is less rugged than the Nikon and with less eye-relief at the high setting (technically, 7.8 power, 3.7" eye-relief. IIRC, where the Nikon is 8.0 power and 4"). +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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What are the Alaskan works rings like ? | |||
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Warne medium detachable rings and 3-9x Leupold work for my Brno. _______________________ | |||
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Warne QD's and a Leupold Euro-30 1.25-4x 30mm on my 375. | |||
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I have several Talley and Alaskan Arms scope rings. Much....prefer the Alaskan arms. Alaskan Arms scope rings There are how to videos on the website and the owner is very friendly and helpful. | |||
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Talley QD and a 3-9 Ziess conquest on mine Member NRA, NFA,CSSA,DSC,SCI,AFGA | |||
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I'll also vote for the Alaskan Arms rings and if it matters CZ also recommends them. And for a scope, if you can find an older Leupold 3X, or care to order a new one from their custom shop, you should be fine for most any game, anywhere. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Talley QDs and a Leupold 1.5-5x on mine. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Same as chuck375 | |||
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I don't claim to know much , But i think of a .375 as a dangerous game rifle. I would not shoot a Dangerous animal beyond 200 yards, hence a low power scope with a strait tube is great ! fixed 3 or 2.5 is fine. ...tj3006 | |||
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TJ yes, the 375HH is legal on dangerous game, but it is also a common rifle for the larger antelope. Some people would like to be ready to take an eland or hartebeest at 250 or even 300 yardswith the same rifle. 3 power will work, but 8 power allows a clearer view of potential leaves or branches that might be shadowing the animal. As mentioned, the 2.0 to 8.0 Nikon Monarch will fit on the CZ550, it is lightweight, and extremely rugged. For inexpensive rings, both Burris and Warne provide options for the CZ. I've used both on hot-loaded 416's. Both seem to work well, though the Warne are stronger. I do not like the "permanent-model" Warne's when changing scopes. They require a complete disassembly. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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very good advices. i like them on Ruger also. | |||
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Warne rings on my 416 Rigby with VX3 - 1.5 - 6 X 30mm tube illum reticle. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Can't comment on what bases or rings to use, none of my 550's are scoped, but my 375 Weatherby on a Model 70 stainless classic wears a Bushnell Elite 2-7x32, it's all the scope I need to 300yrds. I've tried 1.5-5 and a fixed 4x, but the 2-7 runs rings around the others, even the 2.5-8 Luepold would be a better choice than a low variable or fixed 4x. This is what was on my 338 for quite a few years, it wears an Elite 3-9x40 these days. Cheers. | |||
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Warne fixed and 3-9x40 on my CZ. I have a set of Alaska rings if interested?? | |||
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I have talley qd with a leupold 1.5 x 5 on my .416 rigby. The danger of civilization, of course, is that you will piss away your life on nonsense | |||
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Thanks everyone for your valued feedback. Cheers, Arjun | |||
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One more vote for QD Talley's and a Leupold 1-5X Tanzania in 2006! Had 141 posts on prior forum as citori3. | |||
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what work is required to mount to a cz 550? I have one in 416 rigby and it has the 1-2-300 leaf sights | |||
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there are no special tricks to mounting a CZ and several companies make excellent rings. Warne, Talley, Burris, Alaska, to name a few. They mount directly on the CZ rails and the back ring has a foot that fits into a slot for extra stability. The question on mounting a scope on the CZ550 is the mounting length of the scope. The CZ needs about 5" of mounting length from the back of the back ring to the front of the front ring. I happen to like the Nikon Inline scopes with their 5" eye-relief throughout the 3-9 power range. But they only have a 4.73" mounting space between the front bell and the back eye-piece bell. So special rings are required. CZ makes a special one piece mount in the Czech Republic. I have one in Tanzania. My second choice of scope for the Rigby is the Nikon Monarch 2-8 compact. It has a long enough mounting length to fit on the CZ with any of the commercial 1" rings. Its eye-relief is 4" at 8 power, so it is excellent, along with great glass and being very very rugged. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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416Tanzan Can you post pics of the CZ one piece scope mounts you are talking about? Never heard of that one and would like to see them. Best, Dave | |||
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In Moose Camp, we have Talley and Warne, I bought Alaskan Arms rings and find them better. Better, because of the springs used to assist the "popping" open, of the ring. Flip two levers and it literally falls into your hand. Mine is on a Ruger. | |||
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Warne QDs and a Trijicon 3-9x40 on my CZ .375: We have some of the Alaska Arms QDs on a Ruger 9.3 but I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet. It was put together by AHR for my oldest daughter. I have Talleys and a 1.5-5 Leupold on a Mark X .375 and am considering going to a VX-R 2-7 on it. I feel like the .375 can use a little more top-end magnification. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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I have only used CZs and Talleys. Both have served well on rifles built by AHR on CZ 550 Magnum actions in .416, .458 and .500 calibers. Scopes have been Leupold fixed and Swarovski low range variables. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Sure thing. Here are the one piece mounts And they have a similar offset two piece set: I had a friend in the Czech Rep bring me a one-piece set, though with some shipping and handling they can be ordered from the factory. What I don't understand is why CZ USA hasn't brought any of these into the US market? Seems silly. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Wow, those CZ mounts look really nice. I have the CZ rings on my .416 Rigby and .30-'06 now, and have also used Warne. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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Kozap also makes some interesting scope mounts for cz rifles, among others. http://www.kozap.cz/katalog/19/mont-e/ | |||
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I think that the Kozap and the CZ/Brno are the same rings. Check out number 18 and 17 on the lower page in the link. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I can't remember which rings I bought, I would have to dig around for the packages, but they are fixed mount steel rings. I mounted a Weaver k-series fixed 2.5x20 scope. It has been mounted for around 800 rounds of 375 H&H, and a couple hundred rounds of 45-70 hot handloads before that and never had an issue with it. I considered a Nikon monarch African series 1-4x20, but decided against it simply because all 3 of the Nikon monarch scopes I have had, have all failed. Edited to add: I found the ring packages. They are CZ rings. | |||
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More information on that is needed in order to understand the parameters. Someone else from SouthCarolina on this forum shoots thousands of big bore rounds every year and continually shipped boxes of scopes back to the manufacturer for repair until he replaced them with Nikons. Since then, not one failure. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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They were not mounted on big bores. One, a 2.5-10x44 was mounted on a Mossberg 30-06. It wouldn't hold a zero. The other 2 were were 4-16x50. One mounted on a savage 10 308, the other on a FN PBR 308. The first one had something come loose inside. Not sure what caused it, because the zero was checked 2 days before when we set up camp on a pig hunt. 2 days later a shot was taken at a pig, with a clean miss. Got back to camp, checked zero and was hitting roughly 18" high and 6" left, and the scope was mechanically incapable of being re-zeroed. With the elevation bottomed out it was still hitting 4" high. It was a head scratcher, because everything was still torqued correctly, knobs turned and felt fine, everything looked normal, base was still straight, etc. And the rifle was still shooting sub moa, just high with no way to adjust. It had been on that rifle for over a year with absolutly no problems. Mounted it on another rifle with a 20moa base and so far it seems fine. Dropped another scope, a redfield, onto the same rings mounted on the same bases and rifle and it has been fine. The other one just wouldn't accurately adjust for windage and elevation. Adjust from the 100 yd zero for a long shot, sometimes it would be right, sometimes it wouldn't, return the knobs to zero and sometimes it would be an inch or 2 off. Swapped it out for a vortex viper PST, and remounted it on my dad's deer rifle. His argument was that if the only thing wrong with it is it can't be adjusted, but it holds zero, it would work for him since he doesn't adjust and won't shoot more than 100 yards anyway. It has worked well for him thus far, although I doubt he has put more than 20 rounds downrange since. | |||
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Thanks. I've never heard of that with a Nikon, and to have it happen with three with the same person is quite something. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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David for a cz550 .416 rigby and a 30mm scope tube do you get the low Alaskan rings or the medium height ? | |||
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I've got Warne QDs on my CZ 550s in .375 and .416 Rigby. Mounted a 3.5-10 VX3, 1.75-6VX3 and had a 2.5 Ultra-lightweight on for a while. There wasn't any extra room, but enough. There was a factory Zeiss option with an integral mount once. I've only seen a couple of those. | |||
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Warne detachable rings with a 2.5 by 8 VX3 Leupold on my CZ550 375 H&H has worked fine since 2010. | |||
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PC, I'd hate to steer you wrong so I would contact the manufacturer at Alaskan Arms - Morris Melani. Very nice guy who has answered a bunch of questions for me. I have spoken with him several times and always came away impressed with his willingness to help. I would go to him rather than rely on me or anyone else. That being said....to answer your question I do not have any 30mm scopes only 1". I always go with as low a mount as I possibly can on all of my rifles as that is my personal preference. For what you are talking about (.416 Rigby 30mm) scope I'd *guess* a medium height.... BTW - Morris based this ring design off of Tom Burgess' QD scope rings. Chic Worthing and Tom Burgess both mentioned Morris to me as an alternative when Tom stopped taking orders for work. Tom's rings have a level of detail Morris' do not but then there is/was the price difference. $130.00 a set at Alaskan Arms....$350.00 a set from Tom (when you could get them!!!!) and $500.00 a pair or MORE(!) now that Tom is gone... Best, Dave | |||
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Those Alaskan Arms rings/bases look hell for stout. Nicely finished, too. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I use Warne QD rings for a Burris 3x9 and Redfield 2 3/4 for back up. The Warnes have always returned to zero for me. | |||
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416Tanzan, Thanks for posting the pictures. Much appreciated! How do you like the one piece CZ mounts? Both sets look like real nice options. One question I always pose with mounts like these is..."how far do they hang over the magazine well?" Spent case ejection doesn't concern me but never having had scope mounts similar to these I wonder if they could slow you down when trying for a very fast reload...? Maybe a non issue just a question I have always had... Thanks again, Dave | |||
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