In case anyone has been following this thread and the rear sight issue,I shall continue from where I left off.
I again returned to the range to double check the rear sight glue job.This time I shot at 100yds.It was rainy day and the rifle shot dead centre but still a little high-about 4 inches high.So the glue worked and the rifle shot exactly where it did at 50yds the day before.I now have the taller front sight on order and should be in the bullseye at 100 and 50 yds with a small group.
[URL= ]glue between sight base and insert[/URL]
[URL= ]2 shots at 50yds (ignore other holes made by my cast bullets and 458WM)[/URL]
[URL= ]4 shots at 100yds[/URL]

was not me the buffalo hooked --

I run my rugers in my lap sitting here in the recliner - or out on the shooting range where everything is calm expected and no surprises

never had a problem --NEVER WILL

so no, I don't pull the bolt funny or in a ham handed way -- by god I don't do that-- never have never will -- what the hell do you think I am stupid like that -- come on man give me a break

it was a guy shooting a 416 ruger about a month ago cleaning up a buffalo that had been poked with an arrow - seems it made him [the buffalo ] mad

african PH

20-25 years ago a brown in alaska scratched up a guide dam near killing him -- same thing -- under charge he inadvertently triped the safety locking the guy out of the bolt - to this day he venomously cusses rugers - it's personal with him

but hell some people just can't get over stuff you know the type of folks I am talking about here



we are not all talented beer brokers like you George-- some of us get frazzled under charging attacks, on the run, in a rolling stumble, its times like that -for us [not talking about you here] that wish to god we had a m 98 or at a minimum had pinned the ruger so as to not get locked out of the repeaters magazine

It could be that the bolt cycle or position of the shroud when cycled is different on the 416 Ruger than it is on my Lott.I feel confident that the chances of the bolt locking on my Ruger is almost nil.

it could be is -- religious ''like'' speculation or possibly projection trending toward hope

I feel is ---------emotion

testing to learn that every single time the bolt is in mid position and the safety is full back causes the bolt to lock out is ---Data

almost nil is --- testimony


recommended reading on bossi's medical fund donated free hunt raffle --RUNNING JUST NOW -- up in the african hunting section

is -- historical fact-- and might be worth putting on your reading list

the fact that the design and construction of the ruger 416 in question and your gun and my rifles is precisely identical is ---- irrefutable fact

opinion is free - and at times worth about what you pay for it --- nothing

if you want a reliable dependable dangerous game rifle and insist on starting with a ruger it may be reasonable to consider the mechanical working of that specific safety and how it fits your specifications you draft for the rifle -- at a ''minimum'' it is however --mandatory-- you know the issues and limits of the platform you prefer, select, chose/use -- to deny them, excuse them, dismiss them,avoid them -- is ---sloppy thinking

not saying rugers are bad -- they are not !!

I am not saying that the position of the shroud on the bolt is different.I am saying that the position of the shroud relative to the safety lever as the bolt is pulled back could be different.If my hand does not clear the lever while the bolt is pulled back then yes this can happen but if it clears the lever as does my Lott then chances are far less.

could be different is -- definitely hope ish logic

far less chance is not -- definitive reliability


what we are trying to understand here -- reaching for----------- is


Joe six pack proof reliability '' an engineering ''red face test'' phrase''


if it did happen to them,both well oiled gun runners, it just might happen to me--- if I flub up

as you are in the beer business-- it is just possible-- you have been introduced to the JOE SIX PACK----///PROOF///--- phrase

so understand the concept and the underlying innuendos--- that go with it

not sayin you would or ''even could'' slip up like those ----professional-- gun running hunters did

I am not here to insult you in any way

“vertroue in God en die Mauser” (faith in God and the Mauser).

a ruger is just one more mauser-- knock off

and not all that bad in the likeness there off

not cut metal--- cast

safeties a bit different

otherwise just a ruger mauser



the o3. the montana. the dakota. the granite mountain. just to name a few more

the difference is in the detail -- devil that is

any a how the warriors that prayed that, were worshiping the m 92/95 -- not a bad rifle-- even so

used it to hunt dangerous game though

british redcoats -- not cajun rednecks like hillary clinton's favorite game species

the true blue blood english


shot a group-- about like your lott

Boer ed quite a ''lott'' of em through
down in south african farm country

not much wrong with your mauser either George

Got my new front sights and I decided to try the partridge.To my surprise the first shot hit way too low-near the bottom of the target.I thought that something was wrong and decided to put the old sight on to check POI.POI was good-it did not change.I discovered that a partridge of the same height as a bead will shoot much lower.Lucky I brought my file just in case.I started filing a lot of metal off and firing a shot during intervals to check POI.I was a little to far to the left but with my last attempt things centred and it all came together for a three shot group in the bullseye.Now all is set for the shoot next month.
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[URL= ]100yds off the bench[/URL]

Isn't that a pretty sight?