Just a question out of curiosity.

I was wondering what was the most common type of solid used in Africa.

I know the superior benifits of the Mono-Solids.

Have they dominated the sport or are there still
jacketed solids being used on a regular basis.

For those with much time and experience, what is
the most common type of solid you see being used.

Hornady, Woodleigh and Dzombo are available. The latter is an especially fantastic bullet and certainly the choice solid at this point in time as far as I'm concerned.

Rhino is available as well, but I'd just as soon not bother with them.

GS is mostly made-to-order (my impression) and I haven't seen them on any of the shelves over here for a very long time. Pity.

North Fork, Hornady, Woodleigh, Barnes, Rhino, GS, Dzombo. In no specific order. Peregrine I think also makes a solid.

As I sell the North Forks here is SA I'll leave my comment there.

Common? Yep, Woodleigh and Hornady.... Common......

Superior Terminal Performance.....

Cutting Edge BBW#13 Solids

North Fork Tech New Nose Profile Solids....

Everything else comes in Second Place.............

Michael

I have used (and left behind) a fair number of Woodleighs, Hornadys, Trophy Bonded Sledgehammers and my favorites, Barnes Banded Flat Noses.

Don´t forget Norma Solids, developed by Don Heath

With the Woodleighs dont forget their Hydrostatic mono bullets. Just have to becareful of the overpenatration.

In keeping with the tradition factor I use only Woodleighs in my beloved doubles.
Cal

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Just have to becareful of the overpenatration

Not picking on anyone, or any particular bullet here, but I have heard this term before;

"Over Penetration"

I find this term rather interesting and to me somewhat of an enigma.............

I have a hard time, figuring out how one can have "Over Penetration", which would lead to meaning, or denoting a negative term, which is where I get lost on this term? Something like "Over Gunned"? How is it possible to be "Over Gunned" anymore than one can have "Over Penetration"?

Obvious to me, if there is such a thing as "Over Penetration" there must be the opposite end of the spectrum as well...... "Under Penetration"... We can't have it both ways, there must be an opposite, a positive to the negative..... An Evil, for every good..........

Now we as shooters, hunters, we know that "Under Penetration" the direct opposite of "Over Penetration" is a "Negative".... In the terms in which we live, "Under Penetration" has to be a negative, and in normal terms, a Failure in which to penetrate enough to accomplish the mission.

If in fact, "Under Penetration", is a failure, then "Over Penetration" therefore must be a "Success", or a positive.

As with "Under Gunned", this is a negative as well, so being "Over Gunned" must be a positive, or a success...................... Think about it.

Of course, a real and proper designed bullet is going to penetrate far beyond what is required under normal circumstances, as you may very well request this same bullet to do extraordinary jobs where deep, and straight line penetration is absolutely required of it... Example, a south bound shot on a north bound large animal..............

Any and ALL bullets in one scenario or the other may "Over Penetrate" or "Under Penetrate", depending on what YOU THE SHOOTER asks of the bullet in question. It is NOT POSSIBLE or even within the realm of possibility to have the exact amount of penetration, just enough, in every scenario, that is beyond reason.

So why even use the term "Over Penetration" or "Over Gunned", you can never have too much of either?

Oh please, do not come back to me with the ridiculous scenario of having to PASS UP a 50 inch buffalo or a 250 lb elephant because there is another animal behind it and you may loose your shot at it! So your solution would be to use a bullet that might "Under Penetrate", remember, a negative... Possible failure? Honestly, if that trophy is that important to one, shoot with the Superior Penetrating Bullet and kill BOTH ANIMALS...... Or simply do as I have for all my hunting and shooting career, with any and ALL BULLETS, and wait another 15 seconds............. Either of these two options is far far better than using a PISS POOR UNDER PENETRATING BULLET............

To me, there is no such thing, and no such term as "Over Penetration", or "Over Gunned"............

Thank you

Michael

quote:

Originally posted by Rule 303:
With the Woodleighs dont forget their Hydrostatic mono bullets. Just have to becareful of the overpenatration.

Maybe I should have put my question another way.

I am assuming that most solids used in Africa are by Professional Hunters.

If it was possible to take a fair sampling of these Gentlemen and inquire what type of solid bullet
they used, would the overall average be;

1) FMJ Solids
2) Mono-Solids
3) Any combination

I would suspect that the Woodleighs are still holding the sales more than any other solid and I have used them for years without a complaint..but GS customs flat nose solids have given me perfection also..North Fork flat nose and particulary the cup points are fantastic bullets, Lots of good bullets out there today but I think the question was which is the most used in Africa so I would say Woodleighs.