Gentlemen

I need some information on the 10,75x68 cartridge?

According to Gregor Woods "Rifles for Africa" p.66 the cartridge dates back to "early 1920s."

Any information is welcome.

Cheers,

André

Isn't that a kissing cousin to the 404Jeff? I believe that Ray Atkinson might've sold one or two rifles chambered for that cartridge. Maybe you can PM or email him.

See "Cartridges of the World" and "African Rifles & Cartridges". Also Harald Wolff of "Hatari Times" likes it and did a series of articles on it awhile back. According to Cartridges of the World, it was developed by Mauser Werke in the early 20s, but has to be before that cause I had an Oberndorf Type B 10.75 made in 1914. Early bullets did not hold up or penetrate well and it got a bad rap for use on thick skinned game.

Mauser had sportingrifles made up allready in 1910s. In Speed book there is a sportingrifle from 1912 in 10.75mauser.
In WB. Dixon book "European Sporting cartridges", it was born in 1909.

I saw some years ago on Bruun & Rasmussen auction INC one cataloged made in in 1913.

Great old round Andre´...i know one here in denmark who has 100 original(347grain)bullet laying around....I can put you in contact with him??

The bottom 10.75 Type B was made in 1914. The top rifle (another Type B 10.75 of different configuration) was built in 1934:



I got them in Sweden, where they are popular for moose.

Thanks gents

fla3006 how many cross bolts on the top rifle?
Does anyone know when Mauser started making the African model? And when they started making it in cal. 10,75x68?

Jens thanks for the 1909 date, sounds right to me. The 347 grn bullets sounds like quite a treat

Cheers,

André

Andre, I'm not sure the crossbolts on my rifle are original, probably not.

The earliest 10.75 African model listed in Speed's book was made in 1911. The African model was introduced in 1905. The 10.75 was introduced in 1908, according to Speed.

By the way, what did you do with those 50 caliber API's?

fla3006

Thanks for the information on the African model and the 10,75x68.

The APIs are still unloaded! I will Get-R-Done this summer and post some results.

I have just bee loading some .416 240 grn Impalas for a good friend that are going to Africa tomorrow. Those inpalas are fast 950 m/sec. (103grn of N550) (0-300m with a drop of 6.5")

Cheers,

André

Gentlemen

I found this on Mausers site:

http://www.mauser.com/Africa-Model.172.0.html?&L=1

Nice information on the different models.

Cheers,

André

1904 for the "African"! Do you have one in 10.75?

I might
Sorry that is all I can say at this point

Cheers,

André

Hmmmm--- having had a matched pair of commercial mausers in 10/75x68 and a nice original Jeffery in 10.75x73 (.404 Jeff) at the same time when living in Regina, I don't really consider them kissing cousins. At least I don't when shooting either factory loads or max handloads in both.

It is, of course, possible to load up heavy 10.75x68 handloads to match mild .404 loads, , but I'm not sure that proves anything.

All of the factory 10.75x68 ammo I had (DWM) came with 347 gt. SPs, while all my factory .404 rounds came with 400 gr. bullets, both SP and solids. The 10.75's were very much like a .45/100 Sharps I was shooting too, in so far as recoil, and were actually kind of fun to plink with. The Jeffrey loads, while still mild compared to my .470 and .450 Ackley Mag of the time, were definitely not quite as gentle.

Anyway, I have reason to believe my matched pair of Mausers WERE from the early 1920s,and I suspect that was likely the era of their greater popularity...if for no other reason, for their reported adoption by at least a couple of territorial game-ranger units.

Hmmm ...

Me thinks the .395 Ruger Max ought to be done in a style like that.

flaco-

Looking at the middle rifle, it is axactly like one of mine that I use for squirrels. I have been to Sweden several times, but never heard of anyone using a .22 LR for moose.

They get close. Real close. And aim for the ear.

Gentlemen

Interesting thread.
I bought this rifle but will not get it before next month.
It looks like it has some modifications, the m70 style safety and the claw months are not original neither is the pad on the back. The two cross bolts does not look from the period, looks more like Rechnagel parts.
I have only seen African models with one cross bolt.
The rifle is from 1909 and I hope the stock is original African model and only modified with the cross blots.
When I get the rifle I will take it apart and check for matching numbers.
I always wanted a Mauser African model rifle and hope that this one is original. If not I will use the parts for my 8x68s long rifle project with African model stock. Al it needs is a new 29" barrel in 8mm (.323) The magazine from the 10,75x68 is longer then standard mauser magazines and will accommodate the 8x68s cartridge.

Cheers,

André