What iron sights would you all recommend for my new 458 Win mag? I am thinking of using the Marbles #30 universal rear and uni ramp front with the 0.150" ghost ring aperture.

Whichever ones attaches to your "shootaway helmet" with woodscrews!

Front:

NECG Masterpiece front sight band with window hood and red fiber optic front sight

Back:

NECG Express sight with as many folding blades as you desire.

I would second the use on a NECG banded front sight with a fiber optic insert.
On the rear I would suggest you contact Brockman out of Montana. They have a really slick peep that is attached to the rear of a Tally base. It is spring loaded so if you attach a low powered scope, the peep is depressed and it pops up when the scope is removed.
You just remove the ramp.

I will be having German Recknagel sights fitted to my 458Win.
The front sight will be a 2mm bead with a 3mm white pop up moon sight.
The rear will be v type leaf, one fixed, one folding.
NECG are similar, if not the same as Recknagel.

eezridr,

Tip Burns is doing over my old Mdl 70 to 9,3 x 62, we are currently planning on using Talley's peep with their bases and rings, but what you describe sounds good. I assume your experience with it is good? Do you know/ did you compare it to Talley's own peep? I have time to change, so I am interested in your thoughts, Thanks
John

John,

I am not familiar with the Tally peep. When I bought mine it was about 4-5 years ago and I do not believe Tally had an offering at that time.
What I liked about the Brockman unit is that it is spring loaded so it depresses when you mount a scope. It just does not interfer in any way with scope attachment.
Brockman buys the mounts from Talley and does the machining and installation at their facility.
Being 51 years old, my eyes have a bit of an issue trying to focus on three planes. Using a peep you only have two planes and I have shot archery for years so a peep is very natural for me. Also I prefer the look of a barrel W/O the rear ramp (My preference).
My units have worked just fine over the 5 year period and the spring has never failed to work however it might be a problem in freezing rain when water could seep into the mechanism and freeze it closed if you removed the scope.
I do think you have to worry much about that in Africa.

ez

ez,

Thanks for the info, I will do a bit more research,

ScottS, sorry for hijacking your post, hope this info was of interest to you as well....

John

I mounted the Brockman peep system on my M70 and did not like it. It will leave a mark on your scope from the spring loaded peep. It has been discussed at least several years ago and my conclusion was that it is not "bush worthy." This is not a general comment on Brockman's other work. He is a fine gunsmith, I'm sure, but I would not take the Brockman peep to Africa.

Let me say that my rifle with the Brockman peep is a "hunting rifle" and hardly a show piece. It is a mod 70 stainless with a Mcmillan fiberglass stock in 375 Wea and another in 416 Rem. I pride myself with taking good care of my rifles but they do get scratched from time to time. IF you keep your scope attached to your rifle you will not notice the small scratch the peep makes on the bottom of your scope and it will not damage the mechanics of your scope in any way. I have dragged that firearm all over Alaska and in the back of jeeps and 4 wheelers and on horses. REAL LIFE experiences.
That being said. The peep is rarely used. It has a 1.5 X 6 Kahles scope mounted above it. It would be difficult to imagine anything coming in contact with the peep as far as harming it as long as the scope is mounted. It is better protected than a fixed peep W/O a scope.
I doubt it would be as rugged as a fixed peep but a fixed peep does not easily allow you to use a scope.
In "Real Life" who would carry around a detachable peep in your pocket to mount to your rifle when you remove a scope? Just something to loose on the trail or have to fiddle with when you are in a hurry.
Some people my opt for a ramp sight however being able to focus on two planes (peep offers) is generally accepted as superior to three planes (rear ramp) especially for older eyes (my eyes!)
Being that I would typically find myself carrying my rifle with the scope attached 99.8% of the time and only removing in very limited applications, I believe the Brockman is about perfect. It is small and light weight as well.
If you do not intend on using a scope; certainly a fixed peep may be a better alternative.
Mine works and it has not sat in a gun safe.
If you would like I can e-mail you a pic of it attached to the rifle.
As far as bush worthy? I do not know? It is Alaska worthy! Anybody that has been to both places can answer that question. There are fords and chevy fans as we see debates every day on these forums.

If you take this device mounted on a rifle to an area where freezing rain is a possibility I would suggest you inject a bit of petroleum jelly in order to stop moisture from entering the spring area prior to your hunt. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.


EZ

Thanks for all the advise. I'll have to see what the budget allows. The Marbles are all a lot cheaper than the suggested alternatives.

Thanks again.