Hi
i bought a brno in 375 in good average condition. is this rifle good or junk?
regards yes

Horrid JUNK! I will gladly pay the postage for you to send it to me for proper dismemberment and disposal! We cannot let these things get out of hand and back in circulation.

Seriously, nothing wrong with those action, etc.
Good luck with your new toy. Wish I had one.
Brian

Yes, it is absolute rubbish. I am able to offer a disposal service for you here in UK.

It is probably one of the best, price for price, rifles of its time. They are very much in demand!

The two I had were reliable, but roughter then hell. One could slice meat with right side of ejection port. Also the stock was of those stupid ole' English sporter dimensions with too much drop which did not help with recoil mgt.
Those new 550 Mags with dual x-bolts have better stock dimensions, and action finish (one does not have to fear lacerated fingers after loading mag box with cartridges).

That's interesting between the two, the 550 series and the ZKK series I prefer the ZKK. "Different Strokes" I suppose.

I have two ZKK 600 and one ZKK 601 all made 1972/3 with the pop-up rearsight.

Enfield:

Could you upload photos of those pop-up peep sights, please?

Thanks!

Rear View RAISED



Side View DOWN



Side View RAISED



Front visible screw is for elevation. Rear screw loosens the rear of the sight (like a vice) to allow aperture to be pushed right or left for windage. Screw is then tightened to lock windage. Button on side of receiver: push in to allow sight to "pop" up. It has two springs underneath to push it up.

These were NOT fitted to the ZKK 602 Model.

I have Jon Speeds 602 375 and it is my favorite 375. Has the original stock but barrel has been cut to 21" and new front ramp installed along with barrel band sling swivel.

nice find!

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Originally posted by enfieldspares:
That's interesting between the two, the 550 series and the ZKK series I prefer the ZKK. "Different Strokes" I suppose.

I have two ZKK 600 and one ZKK 601 all made 1972/3 with the pop-up rearsight.

I heard those early ones were finished slightly better. I have examined ZKK from early 70s with peep site rear bridge and one piece mount with Carl Zeiss Jena 4x scope attached via rail. The only difference was peep sight and front swivel mounted on the barrel, but other than that it was the same ole' rough tingy as my pieces made over a decade later.

Thanks for uploading. My dad has one from the mid 80s. I think it will clean up nicely. I notice you can definitely feel how gripped the cartridge is when cycling the bolt.

What have other members done to or had done to their's to slick them up?

We plan to replace the safety, have the ugly paddle trigger worked on or replaced altogether, have a new barrel with sight system installed, new Half Moon Oberndorf style trigger and, eventually, a new walnut stock built. Finally, perhaps a little tasteful engraving and then rust blued.

sorry - Half Moon bolt handle.

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
Thanks for uploading. My dad has one from the mid 80s. I think it will clean up nicely. I notice you can definitely feel how gripped the cartridge is when cycling the bolt.

What have other members done to or had done to their's to slick them up?

We plan to replace the safety, have the ugly paddle trigger worked on or replaced altogether, have a new barrel with sight system installed, new Half Moon Oberndorf style trigger and, eventually, a new walnut stock built. Finally, perhaps a little tasteful engraving and then rust blued.

That straight trigger was weirdo one had to set it forward and release it by squeezing the set blade. One could also pull entire unit straight back to fire it, but it had much nagging creep to it.
The two I had came with spare regular-looking trigger stored in little green cloth bag and skeleton screwdriver in plastic pouch to adjust the trigger mechanism. Hey, playing with that screw behind the rear bridge and above the trigger unit didn't seem to help with trigger pull any, if I remember correctly. The safety was "cute" as one had to pull it back to see red dot and fire the rifle. Commie weirdo all the way maaan! Craaaazy!

Here is a BRNO 602 action with a pop up peep sight set up for 375 H&H.

Yes The trigger, as supplied, is not pretty! I replaced all mine with the alternative standard trigger. The downside is that you do get some "creep", although as I prefer a two-stage trigger I can live with it.

Finish is a simple phosphated, it appears, over bead blasted receiver. But wood to metal fit is good and equivalent to that on a contemporary Parker-Hale or Remington or Winchester.

Without the "pop-up" sight or the five round capacity I wouldn't look at them.

Thanks for the "heads up" on the 602 with the peep. Now that is a find! Is it definitely from a 375 or was it from a 8 x 68S?

hi enfieldspare
my rifle has no peep sight only express sight and a funny looking trigger. it kicks like a mule and shoots very accurate . i have only shot it off hand and fast and att 40 yards the 3 shots are touching each others. i beleive i must change the stock with a good classic style stock.
regards
yes

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Originally posted by yes:
hi enfieldspare
my rifle has no peep sight only express sight and a funny looking trigger. it kicks like a mule and shoots very accurate . i have only shot it off hand and fast and att 40 yards the 3 shots are touching each others. i beleive i must change the stock with a good classic style stock.
regards
yes

It is single set trigger. Do nothing just pull works like a normal trigger. Push it FORWARD it works like a set trigger. Screw in boltway will adjust the lightness of the "set" pull.

BE WARNED! They can be set so light that they will go off without any pressure on the trigger!

Enfield,
The follower and magazine box are marked 375 H&H.I don't think it was ever barreled. Fred

Here's another one of Jon Speed's old rifles, courtesy of billinthewild, 458Lott:



ZKKs are kinda rough but can be cleaned up. Here's a ZKK601 in 223 I've posted before:

My first 375HH is a 602. It carries the name CZ vs. Brno; however it is a ZKK. I found (find) it to be a very well made, very accurate rifle. It has served me well and I have no complaints. Kudude

I just got my ZKK602 back from Tip Burns after having it re-barreled to .416 Rigby. Tip installed the rear sight with quarter rib and front sight as well as bluing it. Mine has the rear bridge pop-up peap sight and is not rough at all. Haven't shot it yet but, will soon. I have an English walnut semi-inlet for it but, now it still sports that butt-ugly original stock.




Pardon da' feet!

Masterrifleman

Do you still have the take off barrel?

If so, want to sell it?

Mine has some rust pitting in the bore, it came that way when I bought it used.

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Craftsman - I'll look in the AM but, I think I already sold it. I'll PM you if I still have it.

Hi Alf
Why are you collecting so many junks ?
regards
yes

The 602 is a much sought after rifle bringing premium prices, and also sought after by African PHs, as its one of their favorites..

It is a fine gun, most need a little tweeking and polishing here and there, but what factory gun, short of a Brno 21 or 22, doesn't.

You have a nice rifle, keep it and use it...BTW the pop up peep is a plus and draws a premium price over one without it...

Hi Ray
with exception of stock which is not meant for a kicking magnum rifle and reciever which has a kind of parkerized finnish and that funny hair trigger the rest of gun is very good. it is in mint condition probably not fired more than a couple of hundred rounds thanks to that nice stock that sends all the kicking up to the face . it gives immpresion of a good solid tool.
regards
yes

Hey Alf,
I like your taste and style, I am a big fan of the ZKK 601/ 602'S. Good robust rifles and in my case with beautiful wood and shit they sure shoot well.Nice to meet a fellow afficianado.