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03 October 2006, 15:46
hjl
brown bear loads for a 458 lott
Hi to all,
This is my first post.
In a magazine article I read that 1 of the best brown bear loads was a 300 barnes x @ 2800 fps from a 416 rem mag. If this true what do you all think of loading a 458 lott with 300 gn barnes x @ 2800 fps for brown bear?
I have a 375 h&h mag on a m70 win so it could be a 458 lott with a barrel change.
My experience with DG is nil so looking for some advise.
03 October 2006, 18:44
GeorgeS
Welcome to AR.

Rounds like the .458 Lott are designed to deliver heavy bullets at (relatively) high velocities.

Using a very light-for-caliber bullet robs you of the sectional density needed for deep penetration.

If a brown bear hunt is in your future, your .375 with 300gr. Swift A-Frames, or other controlled-expansion bullet will be easier to carry, easier to shoot well, and quite adequate for the job.

George


03 October 2006, 20:33
Idaho Sharpshooter
GeorgeS,

you are throwing that common sense thing in here again, aren't you? If his gunsmith is good, he can switch the barrels in a couple of minutes. You know, deep down in your soul, that having a Lott validates you as a big bore shooter much better than a puny little 375...?

cheers dancing

Rich
03 October 2006, 20:40
GeorgeS
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
GeorgeS,

You know, deep down in your soul, that having a Lott validates you as a big bore shooter much better than a puny little 375...?

cheers dancing

Rich


Yes, of course. That's why I have a .470 Capstick, instead of a pipsqueak .458 Lott! sofa Big Grin

George


03 October 2006, 21:29
Rick R
Geeze! I get my Lott up and running just in time to find that it's been down graded from popgun to pipsqueak!

lol
03 October 2006, 21:48
Paul H
Personally I think the 400 gr @ 2400 fps is the perfect Lott combo for big bears. You have sufficient bullet weight, velocity and trajectory.

While a 300 gr @ 2800 might just be the most devastating killer on the perfect broadside shot, it just might not have sufficient penetration for a heavily quartering shot.

I believe a load should be balanced for all shooting situations, and work well in all situations. It would more then suck to shell out $15k for a bear hunt, have a once in a lifetime trophy, take the only shot offered, quatering away, and have the bear get away and die a lingering death because you didn't have the proper load for the job.

You don't get a 458 lott for shooting 300 gr bullets.


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03 October 2006, 22:12
458Win
I'll second Paul H although the 300 gr X should penetrate just fine.


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03 October 2006, 23:09
Hog Killer
quote:
Personally I think the 400 gr @ 2400 fps is the perfect Lott combo for big bears. You have sufficient bullet weight, velocity and trajectory


I'm agree with Paul H. cheers

Save the LITTLE 300gr'ers for the Winnie's stir

Hog Killer


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04 October 2006, 06:01
hjl
Thank you for your replys.
Regards
hjl