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Thanks Charlie. I have missed his wisdom and wit. We were fortunate to have him here as member. Never met him in person, but I will always remember the great phone conversations and PMs we shared. Lloyd DeVore, aka Alberta Canuck, may you rest in peace. | |||
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Lloyd told me he missed Oregon terribly. God rest a good man. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Oh..... Dave????????? | |||
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Amen to that. I didn't know him at all, but through his writings here. What was quite clear to me was his common sense and sage wisdom. I looked forward to reading what the man wrote, if not for the insight provided, then for the character which came through in his prose. Doug Wilhelmi NRA Life Member | |||
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+1 RIP Alberta Canuck DRSS | |||
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+2. We disagreed sometimes, but I always respected AC's opinions. RIP. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Got to wonder, if we were t ogo to the trail in the sky, what the members would be saying about us on the forum. If you wonder about it maybe you need to rethink your approach. By all accounts AC was a great guy. What a nice legacy to leave. | |||
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Do I hear a whisper of an apology  | |||
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Lloyd and his wife were married by the JP in Gainesville, TX I believe in 1968. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, did you have the chance to meet Lloyd? There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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I'm all for using real names...... As long as they aren't very long or have silent letters on the end ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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OK, you first.  Don | |||
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SOOO is he alive or dead? | |||
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They are both deceased. KH last December and LdV (AC) in March 2016. May they rest in peace. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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So, Ken Howell was not Alberta Canuck? Weird thread is weird. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Ken Howell was Ken Howell. Alberta Canuck was Lloyd DeVore. Both are deceased. An insulting, loudmouthed, blowhard literally dredged up the dead with his false claims regarding identity. Then, when proven wrong, he lacked the humility to own up to it or offer an apology. Instead, he became more insulting and more obnoxious. That is his way. . | |||
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Number one,I have not been proven wrong. Number two,please explain to me why a gun that I worked on for Ken Howell came up in Alberta Cannuck's estate sale and he (AC) claimed that I built it for him. When I lived in Prescott I spent several hours a week for over six years visiting with Ken in his office next to his house. I think that I knew him better than any of you on AR. Believe whatever you want. | |||
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The absolute certainty on both sides is what is so morbidly fascinating about this thread. I didn't know any of the folks personally and don't have a dog in the hunt. But interesting thread none the less. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Dave, thanks for clarifying the source of your views on this. For what it is worth, when Lloyd bought an old waffle-top Marlin with three-quarter magazine from me, he sent a personal check signed Lloyd De Vore at the Cave Creek address, with a note also signed Lloyd. We often PMed about his many happy years here in western Oregon. I don't know where the confusion arises, but do believe AC was Lloyd De Vore, gentleman scholar. No disrespect intended. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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I am sooo confused!!! Both are dead but one had the other's gun or like an oddball Marlin? And Dave Westbrook knows them both???? I need a scorecard. | |||
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Interesting case. Some of the evidence presented on both sides is hearsay, and it is unfortunate that neither declarant is available to verify their "out of forum" statements. | |||
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Very sorry to hear about AC's passing, good guy and lots of knowledge of our sport/ passion. I corresponded with Alberta Canuck several years back about a small town he lived in in Oregon that I was very familiar with having hauled a lot of hay around there as a kid. He signed off his communications with me as "Lloyd" I think dave wesbrook should clarify his presumptions and quit being a dick about it, but wait that is his nature isn't it? Dave sounds like you knew Ken Howell, not Lloyd aka Alberta Canuck | |||
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Ken Howell posted in AR using his real name - http://forums.accuratereloadin...&sortType=1&u=690105 Alberta Canuck signed many of his posts as Lloyd - http://forums.accuratereloadin...&sortType=1&u=217105 . | |||
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No dog in this fight- curious to me as the to all the confusion though-- I corresponded with both- In my dealings with them: Ken was "Ken Howell" on AR Lloyd was "Alberta Canuck" on AR DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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Yet none of you can explain why AC claimed that I worked on a rifle for him that I actually worked on for Ken Howell. As I said earlier, believe what you want. I owe no further explanations to a bunch of anonymous posters on an internet chat room. | |||
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Except that maybe, after the strokes and everything else he talked about that ailed him, maybe the man was just confused and made a mistake. Of course, no one else of that age would ever do that, would they? For crying out loud, let the men rest. What difference does it make? | |||
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My name is Charles A. Tuppen and you're a fucking idiot. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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QUOTE]My name is Charles A. Tuppen and you're a fucking idiot.[/QUOTE] and I'm David M. Snellstrom and I approve of this message.  | |||
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William Baden Powell here. David, Lloyd lived in Walton as I recall. Are you a transplanted Oregonian? There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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this man is dead. Let him rest in peace will you all. | |||
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Rich, I don't believe it is ever wrong to speak fondly and respectfully of those who have gone before us. Agree there hasn't always been respect shown for the living posters here. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Rusty Knight here. But most of y'all already knew that!  Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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And fwiw, my name is Scot Stephens. Shouldn't be too hard to find me; most people with my first name use two "T"s... | |||
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Scott Compton here and I'm not an anonymous individual to say the least. I made the phone call to Lloyd's family only to realize that he had passed after living with many ailments. We lost a one of a kind, gentlemen like that are a very rare breed. If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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You owe an apology to Ken and Lloyd, as well as an apology to the rest of us! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Ok, now I get it. Both of these guys are "good guys". Both are dead. Dave Westbrook did gun work for one of them, but the other guy's estate has the gun.... So, can we all play well together now???  | |||
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I just got off the phone with Frank Martinez who is the only man on AR that spent time with AC.He had no explanation why AC claimed that I had built a gun for him that I actually built for Ken Howell but Frank did remember the gun. However,when Frank pulled up a photo of Ken Howell on the internet he said that that was not the man he had dealt with.That mans name was Lloyd DeVore. So,I was wrong and I sincerely apologize to all involved in these threads. I hope that you all can understand why I reached my conclusions. | |||
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Dave- It takes a big man to admit that he is wrong. I would love to see the rifle you worked on for Ken. I bet it was magnificent! The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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Mystery solved!!!!  | |||
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