http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l.htm



The Finnish 20mm Lahti anti tank gas-operated self-loading rifle of 1939. 10-round box magazine clipped into the top of the receiver. Lahti has a rack and pinion rotary cocking handle, a rotating muzzle brake and two bipods. There were only 1906 of this rifle ever produced. Thats a PKM inder the Lahti. This is THE rifle for you OverKill!

[ 09-28-2002, 19:56: Message edited by: Bear Claw ]

You know you're in for some serious recoil when your rifle has skids!

Have you ever tried using a regular bipod in a few feet of snow

[ 09-28-2002, 22:07: Message edited by: Wachtel ]

Bear Claw,

I like the Harmonica flashhiger of Lathi. Great name for a great muzzle break.

How about our new wildcat?

Next to it is a 375 H&H magnum!

Saeed

Where is the gun for this cartridge? It is no good without a gun to shoot it. Have fun.

Cheers!
Ming

Saeed, I think you are playing a trick on us. The one on the right must be a 308 Winchester, while the one on the left must be the wildcat, perhaps a 0.00375 HH-Junior?

is it me, or does that one on the right have the distinct look of plastic?

[ 09-28-2002, 23:13: Message edited by: Curtis_Lemay ]

Y'all boys have too much fun.

--QD

Come on Saeed.. I know that thats a plastic toy uncle Walter bought for Hessa.

Saeed...!

What is the weight on the rifle that fires that new wildcat.?

Will it fit on a CZ action ???

Those who didn't miss this baby last time around will recall that it is a dummy turned from solid aluminum and painted to mimic brass. I can't recall what caliber or cartridge designation it had. I think that is a 375 H&H next to the big dummy.

Estimating: 1.670" bullet diameter, 9.16" long case.

The 42.4 X 233 mm Mauser?

The 1670 Walterhog?

Nice doorstop.

Firing this thing from an overdimensioned rifle action ,,either way would be suicide solution.
But if i have to guess this cartridge is the 37 mm X 240,,used by the new chinese anti aircraft.That round is even more impressive than the 35mm X 228 Orlikon round,,but their both similiar in power !!that means 370,000 - 400,000+ joules of energy !
Go get a book called "Rapid fire",,which cover all the mid-range calibers from WW1 to the present,,ranging from 12,7 mm browning to 57 mm Bofors cannon,,,really entertaining if your interested in the military stuff of course,,,and they list ballistics for each cal.The numbers cannot be compared with those of "acc reloading board" exactly

Please. Just give me the old 105mm. Works, period.

s

Saeed,

I've got some mean ass ground squirrels in my back yard that need a round like this. Can my short action Remington be rebarreled for this case? HI

Roger QSL

Bearclaw, do you have any idea what the ballistics for that 20mm Lahti are?

If chambered in a Marlin 1895 lever gun will it be adequate for Dangerous Game

Do they make a matchking for it?

NRAChick

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Bearclaw, do you have any idea what the ballistics for that 20mm Lahti are?

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I'm looking.

A REAL big bore platform:

http://www.ussmissouri.com/

The videos of her broad sides are truly fantastic.

s

Saeed

I think that your new round is made of plastic for some reason However, fill it with lead and ask Walther to drop it on his feet
Make Walther do it properly

/ JOHAN

the only problem is that it's unflanged (not rimmed) and therefore wouldn't extract positively from a double..

Bet the the rifle weighs 140#, total... with 80# of that being the sissyslots.. and then PC and I'll mount it on a jeep and go roo and grumby blasting in a spotlight!!!

jeffe

Bear Claw,
Where did you get that picture? I once new a military rifle collector that had a 20mm exactly like that. I believe he said it was Finnish and it also had skiis on the bottom.

Mr MD click on this link. http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l.htm

I can say that in my experience, you can hit a ground squirrel at 10 miles with a 105mm cannon.

Thanks to excellent optics, the old telescopic sights allowed you to line it up, make the cross hairs match, and you had range, pull the trigger, and watch what ever was in the center of the cross hairs disappear, including the rat with a tail.

The 105 shot a 37 POUND, high exsplosive round, at about 2900 fps. It also had a lighter, 29 pound armor piercing tungstun, depleated uranium, whatever, sabot round, at 3700 fps.

While some may view this as a bit cruel, I believe it's a part of natural selection. Any animal, dumb enough to wander on to a firing range, during a full tilt, heavy armor target exercize...deserves what he gets.

s

Awwwww, you guys are tooo much.

Just a practical word of advice, never shoot a ski mounted AT rifle in a gravel pit without pegging the mounts to the ground first. You want to see road rash. - Dan

ROFLMAO @ Dan! Maybe you just need shoes with cleats & dig your toes in real good.

[ 10-11-2002, 21:00: Message edited by: Bear Claw ]

I've actually fired the 20mm Lahti as pictured in this thread and believe this or not, I would say the recoil is about like an /06.

Impossible? Not when you consider the thing weighs over 200 lbs and is probably 6 ft tall. I didn't weigh or measure it but it took two of us to comfortably set it up on the table we shot from.

Those are indeed SKI's on the thing for dragging it around in the snow. Can you imagine trying to CARRY it up and down icy, snow covered hills?

Gun has what appears to be TWO triggers, but one is actually a bolt release. When you pull it and the action goes KA-CHUNG and chambers one of those 20mm shells...then you know the game just got serious.

The most dangerous thing and easiest way to get hurt firing this gun is getting your hand UNDER the action. Since it loads from the top...it ejects straight out the bottom. I made the mistake of resting my hand under there my second shot and have the scars to prove it.

It is one serious weapon but actually FAR more pleasant to fire than most big bore rifles. Oh, I should mention it has a pretty serious hydraulic recoil system to dampen things. It's just a big, over-grown, semi-auto rifle and with a little practice I think a reasonable shot could probably put five rounds out of it thru a car of truck cab in as many seconds or less and out to 300 yards. I was priviledged to get to play with it for an afternoon years ago.

Pecos,

This is what is on the website link.

"The Finnish 20mm Lahti anti tank gas-operated self-loading rifle of 1939. 10-round box magazine clipped into the top of the receiver. Lahti has a rack and pinion rotary cocking handle, a rotating muzzle brake and two bipods. There were only 1906 of this rifle ever produced.

Comes w/coffin, gunners kit,
3mag carriers, 5 mags, 9 Rd. 1 Pad w/ straps

Calibre: 20 mm Length: 240 cm

Magazine: 10 Rd. Weight: 43 kg

First $ 8.500 Second without rounds $7.500"

43Kg is 94.6 lbs. How was your's set up to get it all the way to 200lbs? Is Ohio Ordnance not supplying everything you should get for their low price of $8500?
Can someone run the recoil numbers for this gun at 43Kg and 90Kg?

Judy

Pecos,
It's not MY link~it's the link Bearclaw provided for Ohioordnance. I just asked a question about if there was a problem with what was being supplied by the gun maker, geeze.

I have done business with Ohioordnance before, and not had a problem.

"Judy"

I wasn't challenging the authenticity of the link, just asking what it was. See the diff?
And I have agreed that their listed weight was more accurate that what I thought I heard that fateful day. The rest and the parts of the gun that I DID pay closer attention to are more vivid in my little mind.

Duh...OK...color me stupid. I just noticed bear claw's link posted with the pict. Once again I was too busy drooling at the gun and not paying attention.

I used to have quite a thing for anti-tank guns and still get a rush at the sight of them.
Drool, drool.

I know Bob Landis (owner of OO) personally. A finer fellow you will not meet. At one gun show in Huston Bob had a K98K sniper that I was drooling over & I had a K98K Ghost model that he wanted, but I didn't have my gun with me. So what Bob do? He says "go ahead & take the sniper & send me the Ghost when you get home. VERY good man to deal with.

Richard10X - You are exactly correct. That was back when I bought my BOYS Anti-Tank rifle. Ammo was buck a round. Luckily it was NOT the sort of rifle you wanted to shoot all day! Half a dozen rounds at a time with it and you were pretty punch drunk. Them were the days!

I came within an ace of buying an UNISSUED Thompson sub with two extra mags for 79$ plus transfer stamp. I don't think I'll ever forgive myself for going down another route!

Sigh.