Is it any good, and will it survive

My other choice is this oneVortex Viper HS 2.5-10x44

That,s more scope than i would put on any big bore. Usually you see low power scopes, the higher power the less eye relief.
If you crank your scope up to 10 power , you might be to close to the the scope witch can smart a bit.
I would go no higher then 6 power.
But that's me...tj3006

Leica ER series have a constant 4" of eye relief.

Having said that, I do prefer a small objective bell on a big bore. Less momentum on the glass could mean something to long term reliability.

Of the two you've picked, I'd go with the Minox...

I am going to buy 3 of them for 3 different rifles. I guess I'll buy one and test it and then if I don't like it send it back. At least with the Vortex you have that option.

This is strictly my opinion but after my brother bought a Vortex scope I was very unimpressed with it. It didn't have great eye relief and just didn't have the quality of other scopes in the same price range. But the kid at the store talked him into it.

He by the way is now looking into a Leupold to replace it.

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Originally posted by Cougarz:
This is strictly my opinion but after my brother bought a Vortex scope I was very unimpressed with it. It didn't have great eye relief and just didn't have the quality of other scopes in the same price range. But the kid at the store talked him into it.

He by the way is now looking into a Leupold to replace it.

I went with a Vortex Diamondback instead of another Leupold VX1 when wanting a scope for another rifle without wanting to pay bigger bucks. Much the same price out here for the two scopes (NZ$400-$450). As a wearer of spectacles which can at times fog just when you don't want them to, I find the quick focus of the Vortex a good advantage over the slow focus system on the Leupold scopes as I can see and shoot without the specs if need be. Don't notice any difference in eye relief when mounted on the rifle and the optical quality is comparable with the Leupold, perhaps slightly brighter and seemingly a bigger FOV with the Vortex. Happy with both brands just like that quick focus best.

I should start with a disclaimer:
I consider 375's to be a nice medium calibre and functionally equivalent to the 338WM.

The 375s can use higher magnification around 8-9-10 power for those 300-yard shots that occasionally present themselves. The 375s can shoot quite flat when loaded correctly.

And yes, eye-relief is part of making a hunting scope comfortable in multi positions.

The easy recommendation is the Nikon Inline (muzzleloader)3-9x40mm. The eye-relief is five inches throughout! The glass is excellent and bright. And the Nikons are probably the most rugged scope out there, able to absorb 375 recoil for breakfast.

The only downside is that the mounting length is 4.73" and requires a reversed front extension ring for many rifles. (CZ makes these but only markets them in the Czech Republic. Ruger is readily available, as are some Weaver-style.) Price is $200-230.

Don't over look the Trijicon-

either 1x4 0r 3x9 I love the triangle reticle for dangerous game/fast shooting

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That's more scope than i would put on any big bore. Usually you see low power scopes, the higher power the less eye relief.* * *

Fully agree.

Look, unless you're legally blind and in danger of drowning in your morning oatmeal, you don't need more than a fixed 4x optic - at most - on a big-bore DGR. And, truthfully, 3x is plenty.

It's not like you're going to be plinking at squirrels with your 416 Rigby.

And if you are, ... well, you've got more money than sense.

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Originally posted by 416Tanzan:
I should start with a disclaimer:
I consider 375's to be a nice medium calibre and functionally equivalent to the 338WM.

The 375s can use higher magnification around 8-9-10 power for those 300-yard shots that occasionally present themselves. The 375s can shoot quite flat when loaded.

THIS GUY GETS IT

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300-yard shots that occasionally present themselves

is this the part he gets or might it be something else

I would go with the 2.5-10 Viper PST. Preferably in the 32 mm version with mil/mil . ffp. !
However. For a 300 yard shot. Even on a little red fox the 1-4×24 Viper PST has plenty good enough glass and coatings to clearly see it and the reticle is precise enough to pin point where your bullet needs to go. I recently put the 1-4×24 SWFA SS Classic on my 6.5 Creedmoor. I very easily made shots at 360 lasered yards on a deer size caribou . You don't need high power for out to 400 yards. And I REALLY LIKE CENTER DOT RETICLES!!!!
That being said. If you want more light gathering at a higher power. Or you like the reticle. The 2.5-10 is a great scope for the money!

to me that's the point--- for me that's exactly right -to much scope can be a cluster duck for a new bee hunter and most other people as well hell on ph s for sure
but what the hell they get paid to take government workers on safari is that not right