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<Terry P> |
chris-m, Well... you have one of the finest production rifles ever made in your 375HH. I hope it's a good shooter for you. What year model is it and does it have the monte carlo stock or standard regular comb? Regards, Terry | ||
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Congrats Chris! A .375 will certainly help you achieve bliss, but if it doesn't do it entirely, you'll just have to keep trying. A .416 would be a nice next step. You will like your .375. When growing up and reading the gun rags, the writers always made it out to be such a cannon that I never felt I needed one (til last year). I wish I had gotten one sooner. It is just a great all-round cartridge. Have fun! Canuck | |||
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<chris_m> |
Terry, It was made in 1953; witch also is the same year that my 270 was made. I bought it out of the Gun list so I do not know if it a Monte Carlo or straight comb? I had so much going on when I was on the phone I missed to ask about the comb. But, my gusse is that it is a Monte Carlo. It is supposally has 95% wood and metal. It has Pachmayr pivot mounts and a Bushnell scope. I cannot wait too get it and shoot it!!!! "The .375 is one of my real enthusiasms in big-game cartridges. If I were going to hunt all over the world and could use only one rifle, it would be the .375. If I could have only two, one would be a .375 and the other would be a .270." -- Jack O'Connor, The Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns, Outdoor Life (1961). | ||
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Chris, I hate to tell you this, but you have made a very big mistake. I too have been in your position, so please learn from my experience. First I purchased a Pre-64 M70 in .270 Win. Took it to the range and shot under an 1" @ 100 yards with all 4 factory loads I tried. Handloaded Hornady 130 grn SST's will shoot 5 shots into one big hole at 100 yards. This wasn't good enough. Just like you, I then had to purchase a Pre-64 M70 in 375 H&H (built 1959). Well, then I found a 99% condition Pre-64 in 300H&H which was a perfect match to the 375H&H, so I had to buy it. After that came a 30-06 which is a phenominal shooter. Most recently I picked-up a mint condition Pre-64 Featherweight in .308 Win. Now I feel like I'm just getting started. The person I buy these rifles from (I call him "The Drug Dealer") knew he had me hooked and when I picked-up the .308 Featherweight, he showed me a mint condition .338 Win Mag. As you can imagine, my will power is breaking down and I am starting to have images of the .338 WM in my safe. You need to stop now before you are caught up in this addictive behavior. Consider yourself warned. Tim | |||
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Tim speaks blasphemy, if you stop buying new guns you will anger the Gun Gods and they will lay spite down upon thee. | |||
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quote:Dan - I must agree with Tim on this topic: first a 7mm, next a 300, then a 338 (my "friend" was really starting to grin), then another 300 - short break for therapy (failed relationship, thank God!) - brand change and 45/70, 50 Alaskan, 450 Ackley and gathering parts to build a 500 A2 - some men have a problem with drink, some with substances, some with women; after much consultation with valued friends, I figured out that my "problem" is with quality firearms - pull the trigger and hang on for the ride!!! | |||
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Have fun! I tried out my new 375 H&H for the first time last weekend and it was really a lot of fun! But I'll agree with the above posts, this is to good to stop just yet . First I'll get this gun just the way I wan't it but now I find myself reading a lot about the good old 300 H&H! But there was also that little 22 and the drilling and ... | |||
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I ask were does the addiction end, I am never happy and always want some other gun. Last year I bought a .22 Hornet, another shotgun, .44 mag lever (marlin) and a .416 Rigby, also a .22 mag marlin which I palmed as it was rubbish. Now I am buying a 602 375 H&H to build a .585 on (as I have the big gun bug after the Rigby purchase) and I also want a .375 H&H (to see what all the fuss is about) a bull barrell 6.5x55 and a heavy barrelled .338 ultra mag with big NXS scope. Finaly I would also like one of those Sako .22 lr ranges. If I had all the above I would be content or would I. ------------------ | |||
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I have a feeling there are a few more of us "Addicts" out there. Kyler Hamann, we know you are out there reading this. It is OK, you are among friends. Admitting that you have a problem is the first step. Actually, I don't think that I have a problem. First, my wife doesn't really know how much I spent. Second, the banks keep sending me new credit cards. See, no problem! Tim | |||
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Best hunting rifle I ever used was a 1954mod. M70 , originaly chambered for the 300 H&H rechambered to 300 Wby. Mag. Sold it (have no Idea why...) and ended up ever buying new guns and selling them after a while. Now, I'm a gunsmith with my own gunshop so trading rifles is commen , but I myself always seams to end up hunting with whats left on the shelf just before hunting sesaon...A like hunting with heavy bullet and a mauser M98 Action..this year I ended up wit a TIKKA in 6,5X55 for moose hunting...The scope was great ...a Zeiss 2,5-10...with light. So now I'm selling it, I have this fabiolus plan. Build myself 5 rifles , 6,5X55 , a 9,3X62 (on M98) and a 450 Rigby on a CZ 550 Action , then 2 rifles with calibers I have not determined right now , but these two I plan to sell evey now and then and replace them with new ones...think it'll work? | |||
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I currently use a pre-64 M-70 as my 375H&H. Prior to it, I used an Interarms Whitworth and a Brno ZKK-602. They are all great choices. But the previous posts are correct: If this is your first big-bore, it is certainly only the beginning. After my first 375, which I didn't think I needed, there were the 2 others, then a 45-70, then a 460, then two 416's, now a 500-460 (510 Wells) and thoughts of a 450 or 500 NE on a Ruger #1. | |||
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AA has the 12 step program what should us guy's have? Last night I could not sleep just thinking about all the rifles I wanted and all the cash I don't have! ------------------ | |||
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quote: 12 different firearms a year would be my ideal 12 step program. | |||
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Well, How does it work? gs | |||
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Tim, You must have been reading excerpts from my book and it's not even in print yet!!! I've had the Mod.70 pre 64 fever for a lifetime along with a love of Mausers.... I have never been able to understand why anyone would buy any new rifle when a good used Mod 70 pre 64 can be had for the same money and a year from now guess which one will hold its value.....I know which one will. ------------------ | |||
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Ray, DON'T PUBLISH THAT BOOK YET!!!!! I have a lot more Pre-64 M70's to buy and I don't need anymore competition/buyers out there. After I complete my collection, then you can publish that book and let everyone in on the secret of how great these rifles really are. TIM | |||
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<chris_m> |
Yes there is nothing like the pre 64 Model 70!! In the last month I have added a 300 Win and this 375. But the bug has really bitten I am thinking I need a 300 H&H (two 300 mag's I have really lost it!(LOL)) to go with this new 375. | ||
<chris_m> |
Ray, I agree why would anyone buy a new rifle when they can get a really nice pre 64 shooter for the same price as the new rifles. Chris | ||
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I shot a Ruger #1 .375 H&H for many years while searching for a good pre-64 M70 in that calibre. The M70 .375 is not a wannabe type of rifle. They are traditionally owned by folks that use them. Many examples within my price range were a little too well used. The super clean examples were out of my budget. Finally got serious, saved me coppers, and found a damn nice one for a fair price. This was three years ago and life has been better since! Need a nice pre-64 .300 H&H now which will be much easier to find. Trouble is, I still have a love affair going with the Ruger #1s! Welcome to the fold and try to deal with the addiction as best as you can. Do not expect others to understand that far away look in your eyes when you spot a fine specimen at a gun show. One does not "own" a pre-64 M70, one enters into a relationship with the arm. Again, congratulations. ~Holmes | |||
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Chris & Holmes, I bought a really pristine 300H&H about a year ago from my source. It loves the 220 grain Nosler Partitions which I think are perfect bullets for that long slender case. At over 2,700 fps, I think that would be a very deadly combination on African plainsgame. The only problem is that I don't want to risk abusing or losing this rifle by taking it to Africa. So for now, when I want a little more power than my 30-06 can provide, I select my stainless M70 in 300 Win Mag. The 300H&H has been cleaned and oiled thoroughly and sits in the safe. | |||
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Some of the best rifles ever made can be had now for less than the cost of the run-of-the-mill current production stuff. And these very rifles would be fairly expensive to produce now. Pre-64 M-70's and FN or other commercial 98 Mauser-actioned rifles immediately come to mind. Why people would rather have the new stuff compared to these vintage classics at nearly the same price or less is beyond my comprehension. | |||
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One good reason for purchasing and using a newer rifle over a vintage classic is of course the chance of damaging or losing it under certain adverse conditions. Given that possiblity, I suppose a new M-70 classic stainless would be a good choice. | |||
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<Don Martin29> |
I agree with Atkinson (again) on the old M70's. I have a .375 H&H, pre 64 and it's one of the best hunting rifles ever made regardless of price. Period. My favorite .375 H&H story is the one Finn Aaguard told of his first lion taken with his new M-70 .375. Welcome to the exclusive club. | ||
<Daddy2B8162> |
I have a 7mm mag and a 300 win mag, but am getting ready to take the big boy plunge...I know the 375 h&h is an awsome round, but what has caught my eye is the rem 375UM, anyone have any input on the new 375 um? | ||
<Don Martin29> |
Daddy2B, I am all for more velocity but if you mean the 375 RUM consider that at close range any bullet but a solid may be going too fast to give reliable performance. Read Haralds site "Terminal Ballistics" that is referenced all over this forum. I had a .378 Weatherby and it kicked like heck. If I am going to take that kind of abuse I would choose a larger caliber and more bullet weight. But you can always load the 375 RUM down. I like to shoot my .375's but I don't think I would fire many 375 RUMs if I owned one. | ||
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