The other day at the range I dropped a round into the action of my .416 CZ550, and proceeded, as with any of my other guns, by pushing the bullet into the chamber. Obviously, I was pushfeeding the bullet, forgetting for a second that I was holding the controlled feed CZ. This resulted in a jam. The extractor had not grabbed the rim (since the bullet didn't come up out of the magazine), so I couldn't close the bolt, nor extract the cartridge. Of course on those occassions, you have forgotten the cleaning rod (and a few more things), and you're the only one at the range.

Talking to a friend, he mentioned that it should be possible to push the extactor OVER the rim of a chambered cartridge, allowing it to grab the rim, so you can proceed as usual with closing the bolt and firing a shot. It would all be dependent on the correct beveling of the extractor surface.

Is this true? I tried to accomplish this without excessive force, but I couldn't. Pushfeeding a cartridge into the chamber results in a jam, no way to get the extractor up and over the rim.

Or should I SLAM the bolt onto the cartridge??

Enlighten me please!

Frans

Frans D, There are two things that inhibit the extrector form jumping over the rim of a cartridge in a Mauser style CRF action, that is not so modified from the factory! #1 is the extractor face that faces the barrel butt, needs to be very carefully beveled, by a a smith who is in the know on the Mauser action. #2 is the way the reciever is milled! Some are fitted so the sides of the reciever ring fits tightly against the extractor when the bolt is closed to avoid the extractor springing out of the extractor groove when a sticky case is being pulled from the chamber. This doesn't leave enough room for the extractor to spring to snap over, and into the groove of a cartridge that did not slide under the extractor from the magazine. Most Military Mauser actions have enough room, so that the spring can be sprung with the thumb enough to snap over. All my Mausers will take a single round dropped in the chamber, and snap over on turning the bolt handle down. If you modify your CZ to do this, have it done by someone who knows what he is doing!

Thanks guys, I'm glad I didn't force anything, it just didn't feel like it was supposed to do what my friend suggested, at least not without some alterations. I'll give it some thought, for now I'll try to remember to take a cleaning rod to the range ;-)

Frans

And once again....get it fixed so that it will push feed. If hunting DG, one that won't is dangerous and useless.

BTW if in a pinch and you have a med or large bore you can unscrew the antenna from your car and use it as a make shift rod to remove a stuck case or cartridge. (not that I have ever gone to the range and forgot my cleaning rod! )

I never alter a Mausers extractor as that weakens the extractor...

A Mauser is designed to feed from the magazine and it quicker to press the round down in the magazine than it is to drop it in the chamber, you still have to close the bolt..Paul Mauser knew that...

You can simply press on the side of the extractor and close the bolt and it will lift over the rim and grab the rim and then you can eject your stuck case....I have done this many times while explaining a Mauser to students...Never had a problem in the field because I understand how a Mauser works.