hello,

was wondering what will be your recommendations on rings, bases and scope for a 458 win mag coming from a zastava/interarmsx left hand action.

thanks for your help and thoughts.

Seeing as your in Canada have you seen these mounts? Near Manufacturing

I have the Alpha mounts on my 460wby

Other than that Id probably go with a set of steel QD Talley mounts.

med,

My L/H Zastava has a set of EAW Pivot Mounts with a Zeiss 8x56 for night-time hunting and a Millet Red Dot for Drive Hunts mounted so I can switch back & forth (it's a standard length action .30/06 Sprg. re-barreled to 9.3x62). There are some who consider the EAW's limits to be a .375H&H recoil level despite the fact they make "Magnum" rings (wider & thicker) for "Magnum" applications. They're pretty spendy, too. Don't have Dog in this Fight so I'm simply offering alternatives.

Initially I used a standard, Vanilla-Flavored set of Leupold Mauser bases with their rings and they fit the Zastava action perfectly. I wouldn't hesitate to use their bases & rings for a .458 Win. providing, of course the Bits & Pieces are assembled correctly and the scope wasn't too heavy (usually not an issue with scopes applicable for a DG rifle).

For a 458 Win. I'd consider the Leupold mounting system and a 1-4x24, 1.5-4.5x26 scope or similar in 1" or 30mm, whatever Floats-Your-Boat. Both Leupold & Weaver make oustanding scopes in this class for the "less expensive" option; then again, Schmidt & Bender, Zeiss and other Top Drawer brands offer options for those with deeper pockets.

Have fun making your decision.

thank you very much guys.

i ll check the Canadian one too as i know of the guy speaking well of them.

speaking of EAW i had a lot of those when i lived in Europe but i dont think i ll go this way.

i want a QD system and i dont Leupold is offering any Weaver like system and only the Quick Release one. i liked it but i dont know if the 458 win mag will keep it alive ...

so i mostly need weaver stell base. the Leupold QRW rings may work.

i still have some questions as you can read.

on the optic side i still dont know but im tempted by the leupold 2.5x20 or a vx2 1-4x20 or vx3 1.5-5x20 ... very hard to beat on the budget side.

still on looking mode.

thanks again

medved,
You do mean M98 Zastava, not M70, right?
You can edit the title in your original post, eh?

Steel Leupold QRW (Weaver-style) cross-slot bases.
8x40 the screw holes and/or JB Weld/epoxy the bases to the rifle.
Use the Leupold QRW rings with the square tab on the bottom that fits the square cross slot on the base.
Do not get the old initial offering of Leupold QRW with the round cross bolt on the bottom of the rings. Trash those or use only on a 22 Rimfire.


I have used this proper QRW setup on a .458WinMag with the same action as you have, as well as other heavier kickers:
Never a problem.

It is also the sleekest setup if you want to take the scope off and use irons.
No overhang or obstruction of the loading and ejection port, nothing that will be uncomfortable in your hand with any grab and go grasp of the rifle.

I also use silicone adhesive inside the rings for the final setup.
Never a problem.

Your scope choices are perfect, Leupold 2.5X compact to Leupold 1.5X-5X, but I would consider the Nikon low powers too, I am collecting those now in addition to Leupolds.

Is there still a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Whitehorse, Yukon?
I stopped there in July 1985 on my way to Alaska.
There was a pretty nice sporting goods store there too, with some big bores on the shelves.
I don't recall the name of the business. Still there or bigger and better?
After heading out of there I stopped on the road and walked over to the Yukon River to take a leak in the river,
thus accomplishing one of the three prerequisites for becoming a "Sourdough" before passing three winters in Alaska.

Rip,

no no this is the model 70 not named the right way over there.

this is made from Fn commercial 98.

there is too a zastava 98 that is a real 98 but not for the left handed ....

back to the topic where is the reference of leupold steel base for that rifle, i found only warne to make a waver base that work on a interarms x the zastava in fact ....


for the name from Zastava just the link :

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/en/...g-rifle-m70-lefthand

RIP,

you re right the Nikon African is the one i should look more in deep.

i hunted with one gold 1.5-6x42 and i liked it.

there are not easy to find in Canada ...

seems the importer dont want to deal with african stuff ...

Ah so! I learned something.
Is this it?

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/en/...rifle-m70-mannlicher





Looks like an M98 Yugo so bases for the Mark X Whitworth M98 ought to fit, no?

Now what about the KFC and the sporting goods store in Whitehorse?

quote:

Looks like an M98 Yugo so bases for the Mark X Whitworth M98 ought to fit, no?

I believe the correct bases would be those specified for the FN Mauser. Seem to recollect that was discussed down in the LH Thread when they did the bulk LH M70 Zastava purchase last year.

Ah so!
Now I am on the right page!
I am putting these on my FN Mauser 500 Bateleur:

http://www.weaver-mounts.com/r...ses/steel_top_mount/



Weaver All Steel Top Mount Base.
Only $12.49 for each base, 25 USD for the pair.

Front base: s46 matte black ("description"), Part Number: 48227 (like pictured above)
Rear base: s45 matte black, # 48226 (it is shorter in length but taller in height)

You can see the s46 base (and s45 hidden) lying in the parts bin underneath this FN Mauser work in progress:



I get Rusty McGee to 8x40 the screw holes, then either he or I do the epoxy of base to rifle with the larger screws and JB Weld.
This should be done after initial shooting to make sure shimming is not required for proper elevation in scope alignment.
Epoxy can be removed with torch heat and proper precautions.

The Leupold QRW rings fit these All Steel Weaver bases.
Weaver All Steel Grand Slam rings are no good, but the bases are good.

I have found that these bases also work on Whitworth Mark X actions.
That is what I have been using with QRW rings on Yugo M98 in the past, forgive my confusion please.
I have never had to shim one, and my JB Weld is glass bedding the base to the action.

Warne Maxima Series Steel Bases (matte black finish) are sold as a paired set,
"FOR: Mauser-FN, 98 Altered, Mark X"

Doc M raised a question as to whether these are truly compatible with Leupold QRW rings,
so might be best to stick with Warne Maxima rings on the Warne bases.
I think the Leupold QRW rings are superior to Warne Maxima rings in recoil resistance.

medved,
Ignoring the Whitehorse, Yukon KFC and Sporting Goods Store comments, eh?

Rip and Capoward,

thanks a lot for your references and help.


i dont think the grand slam steel QD rings are not that good but i agree that the Leupold QRW seems a little stronger and have 4 screws instead of two.

what about the Leupold QR system?


Rip : KFC you re right there is one again over here but i dont know about the food there sorry ... for Sporting Good store you re asking a good question it was good a while ago even a little more expensive but today you dont find anything at all and so need to order online ...

Rip,

the FN commercial Mauser, the Interarms x or Whitworth, Charles Daly, Luger or the Zastava are really the same. quality may differ.

for the last three years i ve seen better finition and less rough action for the newest model arrived at leat in Canada.

Zastava bought the toolings from FN and made different actions depending on the political mood.

i didnt knew the s45 and s46 will fit the action and ill give them a try for sure.

Medved,
Leupold QR is a joke.
Metal camming on metal, friction wear and tear, not a QD for repeated use.
Only good for QD and discard ONE TIME if the scope and mounts get boogered.
QRW much better, BEST.

I refuse to converse anymore about this unless you tell me how the KFC in Whitehorse, Yukon is doing.

I was the only white man customer in the joint at the time on that day in July of 1985,
but I and the natives enjoyed it greatly.
I am Irish-Cherokee, just like Chuck Norris. IRP!
(Immediate Response Please--that is USMA West Point lingo, often addressed to plebes during beast barracks.)

RIP: Respond Immediately Please

RIP,

will try but this is a new one and im pretty sure that your experience will be mine ....

wont help me a lot on my sheep hunting diet lol ....

i have been to the new KFC and that will be the last time ....

not better than any other kfc.

sorry RIP.

quote:

Originally posted by medved:
i have been to the new KFC and that will be the last time ....

not better than any other kfc.

sorry RIP.

I had a similar experience in upstate New York, with the KFC near the main gate of Fort Drum.


I suppose when you are on a 5400-mile drive from Tallahassee, FL to Anchorage, AK, even KFC in White Horse, Yukon can be edible,
though it was way back in 1985, when I was skinny and hungry ...

BTW, here are those bases (8x40-screwed and JB-Welded) on a Kentucky Fried Rifle:

I put a set of Warne bases and quick release rings on my left handed, Zastava M70 in 458 Win Mag. Currently TooManyTools has it for a barrel change and other modifications.

I'm having the skinny (.660" at the muzzle) barrel replaced with a 25" barrel with a .750" muzzle diameter and having a banded front sight and barrel band sling mount added.

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:
I'm having the skinny (.660" at the muzzle) barrel replaced with a 25" barrel with a .750" muzzle diameter and having a banded front sight and barrel band sling mount added.

So you are going from the typical approximately No. 4 Sporter contour that is used by Zastava and CZ for their .375 to .458 caliber rifles,
to an approximately No. 5 Sporter contour.

The Kentucky Fried FN above has a No. 6 Pac-Nor Sporter Contour done by McGowen with 1:12" twist.
However the hole in the barrel is .500-caliber,
and is as light a barrel as I would dare go in that caliber.

I prefer the Brockman forend tip sling base,
and iron sights are not for me anymore: Backup 1X scope is better than any iron sight,
nostalgia be damned!