8mm or more,
A 250 gr is on the way in 8mm. I had to draw a line initially but I expect to have the 8mm, 250 gr ready in a month or less. The same goes for the .429 cal.

Jeffeosso,
I take it you got your bullets. How do they look to you?

Fritz, I don't mean to mislead you, the .429's are all I'm interested in right now. And no speed needed on my part. I'll watch your site for info on availability. Makes me wish I still had that 8MM RM, however. If you make them available, I bet they would sell. Best to you.

Fritz,
I do't have em yet... but I am waiting!!!
I added 2# to the 500, lapped the bolt, replaced ejector, soldered sight on it... and I am pretty close to being ready!!
jeffe

I received the small collection of prototypes and I must say these are little works of art.

I showed these around to some people today and included women in the group. Every person would look at the bullets but they always ended up fingering the hemispherical nosed with cutting shoulder. Amazing isn't it? I wonder why that particular design gets all these folks, both men and women, none of whom have ever seen designs like these?

Anyone notice anything else peculiar about these already peculiar projectiles? If not I emailed John regarding what I saw. No it is not a measurement. Edited to add it is nothing to be alarmed about, just look closely and tell me what you think it is that you see.

John don't you tell them either!

[ 02-04-2003, 08:11: Message edited by: Roger Rothschild ]

Roger,
Are you talking about the boat tail? This is a way cool feature which I assume has a lot to do with the great accuracy Fritz referenced.

Fritz,
I will be purchasing several calibers and weights at your very reasonable prices. I am shooting .375 H&H, .458 Win, and .450 Ackley. I think that the #3 nose design will be like sending a whole drum of "ass whip" down range from the .450 Ackley. That big flat sucker should deliver devistating shock on impact.

Nope, keep looking.

Roger,
The only other thing I see is the same OAL and similar ogive that would make seating depth the same. You got me?

Roger.
Not too many people have these in their hands so it would be hard for them to see what you're talking about. If you OK it, I'll take a photo of what you are referring to and post it

Ok sure I wasn't aware so many were still on the way.

Fritz,

Thanks for posting the prices. I'll be sending an email to order some .458 450's in #3.

Pertinax

Fritz,
Beautiful work! I am surprised they are so reasonably priced. Soon you will have an order for 375, 416 and 620 bullets. I think you will do very well with these bullets.

John

How much more fouling do bullets like these leave compared to jacketed bullets? I'm about to get a .458 Lott, so a source of good bullets would be very nice! All the ammo I've ever used in my handguns has been JHP/FMJ/JSP's, with the exception of a very few HC-FP's in my .454; never have done anything with a rifle before.

I have not experienced any fouling at all.

Ok, I guess no-one wanted to bite.

The bases of the bullets have been lapped square. I thought this was an amazing touch.

if you increase your line of diameter you should also have a .358 round, I think it would be great for bush rifles and even my fav the norma magnum

Hi Fritz,great bullets.
Are you able to make Norberts Superpenetrator?
http://home.t-online.de/home/nhansen/penetrat.htm#SuperPenetrator

Fritz,
I got my .510 550s!!!

All I can say is WOW!!! my wife said that they are too pretty to shoot... little does she know!!!

thanks
jeffe

Fritz,
I would like to try some 500 grains in my .450 Ackley, but all 3 designs are so darn impressive looking that I don't know which ones to order. I will be going to Africa in 2004 for my first Cape Buffalo. Would there be any benifits of one design over another. I kind of like the looks of the #3 design as far as knocking hell out of something. Does that flat nose slow them down much compared to the others? In a 500gr .458, I would think not?
Also, I have a .411JDJ that I have been shooting 210gr XTP's in. They are .410 diameter. Can I shoot the .411 diameter bullets you make in it? I've been needing a tougher bullet for this gun. I know we don't talk about pistols on this sight, but this one makes the .454 look like a ladies gun.

Jeffe,
I appreciate your wife's comments but shoot them anyway. There's more where they came from. I certainly understand her statement; I've got quite a collection of calibers, weight and shapes going here. Every walk in we get looks at the tabletop with the bullet display on it. Even while they are having a conversation their eyes never leave the table.

Timberghost,
Personally, I use the #3 nose shape or one with an even larger meplat, provided it feeds. That big flat nose really whacks 'em hard. The sound impact makes is something else. The closest description I've ever had someone come up with was comparing it to beating a hanging rug with a bat.
All three nose shapes have a cutting shoulder and will punch out a caliber size hole although the bigger the meplat the less the bullet path will close in and seal the wound channel. There are two schools of thought at play here. One is the bullet should stop on the far side of the animal thus expending all of the energy in the tissue of your target. The other is to have two holes that bleed. I subscribe to the latter with one addition. I want two holes that don't close. I'm not attempting to rehash this argument just offer my opinion.
If the #3 will feed in your rifle that would be my recommendation. The #2 is a traditional round nose with a cutting shoulder and the #1 is blend of #2 and #3. It has the meplat, not as big, and a larger radius to aid in feeding.
I shoot a 375 JDJ and love it. DON'T shoot .411s if your bore is .410! I took a quick look at SSK's website and didn't find anything on the 411JDJ. I would give them a call and find out what size bullets the barrel is made for. If its .411 my bullets will be fine. IF not, I can use the same program as the one for the .411s and just make a 2 second change and the bullets will be .001 smaller in diameter, just what you need. The weight will be slightly less but at most a half a gr. I guarantee +/-0.25% on stated weight. It will still fall within that tolerance, no problem. If you go this route, note the weight of the .411s is 390 gr so adjust your load accordingly. If you want something custom look at the website, custom section. I have a long way to go with the site but there is more information there almost every day. www.bridgerbullets.com
I've sent you an email with some more information on the 458s.

Nunda,
No I haven't. I've been using the #3 nose shape for 3 or 4 years now and have never recovered a bullet. I took a look at the link you gave and his work is interesting. I would like to do a side-by-side comparison, maybe this summer.

[ 02-07-2003, 09:17: Message edited by: fritz454 ]

Wow great price. That's half what I paid for my 458 barnes solids.
lar.

Gerard,
what ever happened to your bullet production??

You seemed to be having a lot of problems for awhile, then haven't heard ANYTHING for some time. Are you still making/shipping??

Any chance of a .458 bullet heavier than 500grs? Like 550gr or 600gr? I've seen 600gr Barnes bullets but they are soft points. A solid 600gr'r at 2150fps in a Lott would blast through just about anything!

This is not a request (yet!!), as I won't have the rifle for a couple of months...but when I get it...

I'll be ordering quite a few of these, me thinks

Glock20rocks,
Any weight you want is posible. Right now the 500 gr is the largest but I plan to keep adding to the standard list. A 600 gr will be coming soon.
John
www.bridgerbullets.com

Fritz,
"You the MAN"!!! This is exactly the information that I was looking for. If the #3 design will feed in my gun, thats what I will order. I will pass this on to my shooting friends as well.
Both of my .411JDJ barrels are rechambered from factory TC .41 Magnum barrels 10" & 14" with breaks. I am also working on a .444 Marlin rebarreled to .411JDJ This gun will also utilize a .41 Mag barrel from a carbine. I think this will make a great bear gun. I will try TC to find out if their barrels will handle the .411 diameter bullets. If you like the .375 JDJ.... you MUST try the .411 JDJ.

fritz454, thanks for the info! Can't wait to get my toy and try it out!

Fritz's bullets are the BEST! I can tell you that they shoot beautifully. I plan to do some group shooting with them next weekend and post the PICS. As for penetration, how many Ele's will it take to stop one? I'm gonna order a few hundred in everything from 9.3mm to .600- Rob

Johnny Ringo,
Our current facility is running 24/7 and we ship as fast as the bullets are done. Our new facility is four times the size of the old one and will be completed in April if all contractors remain on schedule. Till then we suffer the backlog situation