Looking for suggestions on 500 nitro bullets at 570gr for north american game from blacktail deer on up. I already have 50 woodleigh softs in the mail. Just looking for other suggestions, figured if im having the rifle built i may as well hunt with it.

same as any other game. DRs generally regulated for one weight.

I forgot to mention it will be a ruger no1

I would still suggest one bullet weight in such a cartridge. They will all be effective.

Why stick with the 570 grainers?
A 50cal bore opens up all sorts of options from DG bullets to cast greasers and paper patched as well.

I'm wanting to stick to 570gr for now just to help mitigate the need to work up multiple loads. "Saving money"

You will certainly want to try the Barnes TSX 570-grainer.
I used the old Barnes 570-grain XLC-Bullet in my .500 A2, on bison, and it expanded full-curl on impact at 2300 fps.
Should be a perfect half-curl mushroom with your .500 NE 3", about 100% weight retention, and plenty deep penetration at about 2000 fps impact.

You can certainly load a 570-grainer .500 NE 3" to faster than 2150 fps in a Ruger No.1,
brass strength and recoil enjoyment will be the deciding factors.

IIRC, Barnes TSX bullets claim to expand down to 1600 to 1700 fps impact speed.
The TSX expansion is reliable.
Also about the best 570-grain BC you can get delivered.
Higher speed down range for better expansion down range.
Higher SD at any given speed also means better expansion on impact.
The 570-grain TSX is perfect for hunting.
Pair it with a 570-grain FN solid and it will exit on elephant head shots, and might even get to the heart when fired at the north end of a south-bound elephant.

Rip ...

I use the 570g TSX's in my 500 Jeffery. Very accurate, expand even on elk at 200 yards, yet a very tough bullet as well.

I've used the TSX, Northfork, and CEB (solids and BB13's). All work fine in my 500 NE DR.

With the CEB's you can go down in weight and up in velocity and at least in my rifle, they regulate fine as well. I don't have the data in front of me at the moment but can get it if you want.

Barnes TSX.

I sure like the CEB Raptor in .500 cal for cape buffalo.

As you are using a single shot and regulation is not a problem, how about some 440-grain lead bullets at 1700 fps for whitetail and black bear? Basically a .500 bpe load.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
As you are using a single shot and regulation is not a problem, how about some 440-grain lead bullets at 1700 fps for whitetail and black bear? Basically a .500 bpe load.
Cal

Heck yeah!
And don't forget the .50-70-Government with 450-grainer at 1195 fps,
.50-90 Sharps with 450-grainer at 1310 fps,
and the .50-140 Sharps with 537-grainer at 1479 fps.
You gotta try some AA-5744 reduced loads for fun.
Cheap and easy plinking or deer hunting.

Rip ...

Cal Pappas, half those 440gr lead bullets are going to get loaded up for a plinking/deer load, the other half is getting saved for an 1886 winchester 50-110 project here in the somewhat near future. Thank you again for the awesome deal on brass and bullets. Currently waiting on my dies so i can work up some loads while i wait for the smith to finish the build, (unfortunately the barrel is another 7 weeks out)

Big issue for me there is that i don't yet cast and don't want to spend the money to get started on casting quite yeg

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Originally posted by RIP:

quote:

Originally posted by cal pappas:
As you are using a single shot and regulation is not a problem, how about some 440-grain lead bullets at 1700 fps for whitetail and black bear? Basically a .500 bpe load.
Cal

Heck yeah!
And don't forget the .50-70-Government with 450-grainer at 1195 fps,
.50-90 Sharps with 450-grainer at 1310 fps,
and the .50-140 Sharps with 537-grainer at 1479 fps.
You gotta try some AA-5744 reduced loads for fun.
Cheap and easy plinking or deer hunting.

Rip ...

Great advice. I have a bunch of cast 535g bullets I use with AA 5744 at 1500 fps. Zero recoil in my 500 jeffery.

Chuck375,

How many grains of AA-5744 in the .500 Jeffery
do you use
to equal 140 grains of Fg in the .50-140?
Good load.

Rip ...

Hi Rip, had to dig it out. My reloading area has been swamped by one of my sons moving back in. But here's the email I got.

Finally found my reply from Accurate Arms Powder, here is the load data they sent for my 500 Jeffery shooting 525 grain Cast Performance Bullets with AA 5744. I'm buying myself a reloading notebook for Christmas lol ...

We suggest the following.
Caliber: .500 Jeffery - Rimless.
Barrel length: 24”
Primers: We recommend using only Winchester Magnum WLRM or Federal 215 magnum primers.
Reduced loads:
Powder: Accurate – 5744.
Bullet weight: 525 grains.
Low load: 55.0 grains (1600 - 1700 ft/p/sec)
Mid range Load: 65.0 grains (1825 – 1925 Ft/p/sec).
NOTES:
It’ important to note that SAFETY is our prime concern therefore we strongly recommend.
1. TO ALWAYS BEGIN LOADING AT THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM “START” LOAD.
2. If at all possible, measure the velocity and correlate with our data.
Regards
Johan Loubser
Ballistician
Ramshot/Accurate Powders
Tel: (406) 234 04 22 email: johan@ramshot.com
Western Powders Inc -- Miles City – Montana.


I think I used 58 grains, can't confirm though. It worked fine, but I hated cleaning the lead out of the barrel, not used to shooting non-jacketed bullets. Maybe I'll start back up shooting some reduced loads using .510 pistol jacketed bullets. Should be good for jack rabbits

Hawk (http://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html) makes some great bullets at reasonable prices. I understand that you have some bullets and you want to stick with those. The Woodleighs are pretty good bullets.

The value of the Hawk bullets are: 1) Readily available, 2) Don't have to take out a second mortgage to buy them, 3)made in the US, and for me most importantly, 4) jackets are made of "electrical grade" COPPER, not 'gilding', and cores are PURE lead, not alloy. What this means is that they expand like "cast" at low velocities AND have good BCs. Which in turn means 1) they don't have to be loaded to "kill at both ends", and 2) muzzle velocities can be low and still get great terminal performance.

I know, it sounds like I'm a Hawk salesman. I'm not, and have NO affiliation with the company in any way. I "like" them for the reasons listed above.

Anyway, stick with the Barnes and Woodleighs if you care to. They may turn out to be 'the cat's meow' for you. If you find they don't work as well as has been suggested, Hawk is a potential alternative you might look into.

By the way, I'm "with you" on the leading. I will NOT use cast bullets at velocities above 1200 f/s because in spite of using all the voodoo available about cast bullets and lubes, I CAN NOT PREVENT SERIOUS LEADING at MVs above 1200 f/s. Spare me the assertions that "you" can get cast lead bullets to 2500 f/s without leading. Good for you. I cannot.

Paul

Great suggestion. Thanks!