458 win mag 500 gr Softpoint

24 November 2013, 02:06

Austin Hunter

What is the "softest" soft-point available in 500 grain range?

Looking for something inexpensive that I can also load to speed (2,000+ fps) for hogs.

Hornady seems to be the less expensive, but not sure if they are soft enough for piggies.

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24 November 2013, 02:14

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The older Hornady soft point round nose. I've bought dozens of boxes at gun shows for 20-25$ per box. While I have shot buffalo with them in decades past I think now they are too soft. Great for plinking.
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24 November 2013, 02:18

Austin Hunter

Thanks. The 500 gr Interlocks? Trying to find some right now. Look good.

24 November 2013, 02:27

458Win

They all seem to work pretty well in the 2000+ range. In my experience the softest were the Woodleighs and Remingtons.
But if you really want soft try some 400-405 gr 45-70 bullets.

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24 November 2013, 02:29

ozhunter

I use the 480grn bullets made in Australian by Bertram .
Similar to the Woodleigh but not bonded.
480grn makes it easy to reach the ballistics of the great 450NE.

24 November 2013, 06:59

Austin Hunter

That rifle is awesome. Original Mauser or a custom?

24 November 2013, 17:48

600 Overkill

If you can find them being what's going on in the ammo world these days----yes the Hornady's are the answer. I hammered a huge farm pig right between the eyes with that bullet @ 2100, range about 20'. It chewed a 3-4" hole all the way through & came out just in front of the left rear leg leaving a golf ball sized exit hole

24 November 2013, 18:33

Magnum Hunter1

With the .458, I think any 500gr. bullet would work well on hogs. Any of the early softs and the new Interbond. I have used the latter on buffalo, giraffe, and impala along with the solid on elephant. The .458 has enough diameter that I wouldn't mind shooting the solid on hogs.

24 November 2013, 19:46

Austin Hunter

Appears another good option would be Northfork Percussion Points, though not cheap, would expand really well on thin skinned game.

24 November 2013, 19:48

hunteratheart

quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
The older Hornady soft point round nose. I've bought dozens of boxes at gun shows for 20-25$ per box. While I have shot buffalo with them in decades past I think now they are too soft. Great for plinking.
Cal

What decade was the $20-25 per box for 458's? I've never seen anything under twice that in years! Maybe I need to have someone start shipping them here for that price

24 November 2013, 22:40

MARK H. YOUNG

Sinclair catolgues the Hornady 500 RN at $41 per box.

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24 November 2013, 22:58

Zephyr

Check out Hawk bullet they are of traditional lead core copper tube construction with different jacket thicknesses.
http://www.hawkbullets.com/

If you need a canullure they will put one in for you.

25 November 2013, 01:31

MARK H. YOUNG

Guys,

This thread made me think about what I had in my bullet stash. I found a box of Hornady 458 cal. 500gr RN Encapsulated solids. Are they the ones that were real crap or as good as any RN solid?

Mark

25 November 2013, 02:12

458Win

Mark, In my limited testing the encapsulated solids held together OK --- but quite a few folks with actual with them in Africa didn't have much good to say about them.

25 November 2013, 05:31

cal pappas

quote:
Originally posted by hunteratheart:
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
The older Hornady soft point round nose. I've bought dozens of boxes at gun shows for 20-25$ per box. While I have shot buffalo with them in decades past I think now they are too soft. Great for plinking.
Cal

What decade was the $20-25 per box for 458's? I've never seen anything under twice that in years! Maybe I need to have someone start shipping them here for that price

Hunter:
Over the past years. Now, too, at times. Many folks up here buy .458 and .460 to have the biggest rifle on the block and sell it when the kick is more than they can handle. They sell reloading stuff very cheap. I use the bullets in my .450 no2 double rifle and have enough to last my lifetime. For hunting I use Woodleigh but the Hornady are so cheap I plink and target with them. A mate in Montana finds me them, too, as big calibers are not popular there and so few want to buy them.
cheers,
Cal

25 November 2013, 18:29

buckeyeshooter

Might try the Remington 405. Its very soft and will expand like crazy at 2000 fps. I would not push it much faster than that though.

25 November 2013, 19:52

jpl

quote:
Originally posted by Austin Hunter:
What is the "softest" soft-point available in 500 grain range?

If you don't mind tinkering then you can get a dead-soft .458" 500gr paper patched bullet to 2000fps and if you cast they're as cheap as your source of lead and a mould.

While I know it's not the best test my 505gr 1850fps dead soft PP bullet mushrooms very well in water. I doubt any pig hit with one will go far.