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Double in .470NE
01 September 2007, 02:20
BuglemintodayDouble in .470NE
Is there a company that makes one for under $3k?
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01 September 2007, 02:23
analog_peninsulaEntry level in a new double seems to be about $9k, if you are willing to take a left over. Otherwise $10-11k is where things start.
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01 September 2007, 02:43
Idaho Sharpshooterwhere is Chapuis, pricewise?
Rich
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01 September 2007, 02:44
Buglemintodaywow I didn't know that even $3k couldn't get me one.
Back to the drawing board!
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01 September 2007, 02:57
400 Nitro Expressquote:
Originally posted by Buglemintoday:
wow I didn't know that even $3k couldn't get me one.
Back to the drawing board!
If it would, you wouldn't want it.
The Chapuis 9.3X74R is available in the mid-$4k range, and is a nice gun. Far better to go that route than any .470 you can get for that. Meanwhile save for a decent .470.
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01 September 2007, 03:17
walksfarIt's always best to save "for" the best when talking doubles. In the end, you will be more proud of it.
It doesn't have to be a Holland@Holland.
Jeffery is my pick. Next to Westley Richards.
And yes, I am still "saving" as I type this.
So, you're not alone.
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01 September 2007, 03:18
Idaho Sharpshooter400 is correct. The last group buy (IIRC) came in about $4250...that is within reach if you want a good double. It is legal for everything in Africa, and the rest of the world, and ammunition, brass, bullets and dies are all mainstream products. I know of a DR in 470 for sale for $9700, but it would take the expertise of somebody who knows to evaluate it. You might PM 465H&H and see if he has seen the rifle at Boise Gun Company. I expect he has had his hands on it.
Rich
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01 September 2007, 10:54
WinkI don't remember if it got sold or not, but AR member Badger Matt was selling his Merkel .470NE for $8500. It might still be available.
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01 September 2007, 17:59
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Buglemintoday:
Is there a company that makes one for under $3k?
pretty hard to make one for yourself for that price.. though a "kit" would be nice.
merkels had been about 6500 bucks 6 years ago, but with the rise of the euro and inflation, they are nearly 10k
jeffe
02 September 2007, 01:00
Showbartquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
400 is correct. The last group buy (IIRC) came in about $4250...that is within reach if you want a good double. It is legal for everything in Africa, and the rest of the world, and ammunition, brass, bullets and dies are all mainstream products. I know of a DR in 470 for sale for $9700, but it would take the expertise of somebody who knows to evaluate it. You might PM 465H&H and see if he has seen the rifle at Boise Gun Company. I expect he has had his hands on it.
Rich
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Rich, you saying 9.3 is legal everywhere? Not in TZ, maybe elshwere too. It's my understanding that a TZ game scout will "look the other way" it but 375 is the minimum. 9.3 is legal all over the south me thinks.
That Continental Arms 470 has been for sale for a coon's age. Some here have commented on it, condition, if redone, price and it wasn't all positive as I recall. Honestly in that range I'd buy new and not have to worry about it.
02 September 2007, 06:05
Idaho Sharpshooterit looked okay to me...now you know how much I know about "off-brand" doubles.
Rich
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02 September 2007, 07:09
Rodney H.{500Jeffery}I'm having my smith build mine on a 12 guage hammer gun. Found an acceptable action at pawn shop and bought a couple of green mountian barrel blanks in .509 and decided on the 50-90 sharpes for the chambering. The 50-90 sharpes in black powder decision was based on the need for keeping chamber pressures low and getting the knockdown and cool factor that I wanted in a low budget double rifle. This rifle is taking some time to build but it will look as if it were of a late 19th century manufacture. This project will be under 2K with the base gun at $250 and barrels at about $400 for the pair with shipping. The barrels will be turned to sleeve into the I.D. of the shotgun tubes, handfitted to the action due to slight angle for regulation. Express sights and we're ready to go. R.
02 September 2007, 07:17
Idaho SharpshooterToo Cool Rodney!!!!
I have a browning B-SS 12 gauge magnum that I keep going back and forth about converting.
50-90 is a great choice, I would look at 50-110 smokeless loads as a top end safe load.
Rich
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02 September 2007, 08:19
Rodney H.{500Jeffery}My donor action is a 1909 L.C.Smith sidelock hammer gun with chain damascus barrels. This is the reason for keeping pressures as low as possible. For starting loads I may start with about 70gr. of ffg black and use filler if needed. A friend of mine whome has done this before strongly urged me to go with the 50-70gvt cartridge but I was rebellious and figured I could use filler if needed in the 50-90 cartridge to keep pressures low and maintain the cool facter of a big casing.The L.C.Smith action is very tight and has about 30% of it's case hardening. This is not a very strong action as far as pressures and would NOT reccomend this for a build without thorough inspection. For more powerfull chamberings the Browning BSS is a good choice although I'm checking out the new CZ's. R.