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Does the stock really work? I've read that some people think they're big and clunky, but do they really help tame recoil? I handled one of their rifles at SHOT 2004, but didn't really get to play with it enough to make any judgements. Of course, I haven't gotten to fire one. | ||
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Don't know if it works. But it's uglier than most women of easy virtue. And call me shallow, but I'd rather be loved and hurt by a pretty girl than treated like a king by an ugly one. | |||
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A wise man once said "Why spend my life with one special woman, when I can sleep with a whole bunch of average ones? | |||
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This is an abomination of a stock! If you are built like a 400 pound gorilla, you might like it, and if you are as close to the human race as I am - most likely, as on numerous occasions I have been made to feel as if I am a second cousin to a chachma baboon - then you won't like it. | |||
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coil chunk!! art took the good concept of a wide butt and a large palm swell.. and then used a bandsaw to "shape" his stocks... uglier than me on saturday morning jeffe | |||
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But it does tame the recoil, as I have a couple built like them.Guns with 12,000 and on up ft lbs of energy needs ugly to hold them. Ed. | |||
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"...uglier than me on saturday morning..." How can you even look at yourself in the mirror then? I thought there was nothing as ugly as the coil-chek stocks Alpin designed? | |||
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Saeed Do you really have a problem with the stock or you just playing the "hater". I have seen and touched a a-square stock. I don't agree with you at all. I think the stocks look pretty good. I would take one of those stocks over a synthetic anyday. | |||
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The stocks look like hell but they work. They used to make a synthetic model at one time but I don't know if they still offer it or not. | |||
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You can buy the synthetic version from MPI. - Dan | |||
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Dan, I just woke up to three ugly things.. 1: coil chunk stocks 2: synthetic 3: MPI (Most Poorly Injected) Stock I had an MPI (not coil chunk) that I was going to try with my 500 jeffe enfield... If the ups guy hadn't hopped right back into his truck, it would have went back THAT day... I decided, okay, I am stuck with it for the weekend (and it was a brownells closeout) I'll look at it and hopefully it would grow on me... like jungle rot, I am happy it DIDNT complaints? inconsistant surface finish I don't mean I would have to sand it, i mean I would have to lay fiberglass on it... Seriously, it looked like it was poured HORIZONTALY and then turned ONCE every 15 mins... so what flowed, flowed, and what didn't well, let's say that a stock is funny looking with a more or less exposed cloth, then smooth expoxy, then cloth, then a divot in the exposed cloth. Any, so i woke up to a BUTT ugly stock style, that someone wanted NOT in wood.. and MPI got thrown into it... man...... I just barfed !! jeffe | |||
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I am afraid I am not kidding. I do believe these are one of the worst stocks I have ever seen. They still cannot compete with some of the awful European made stocks though. | |||
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Saeed has it right, the A-Square stocks are big and bulky and just plain ugly. Several years ago I was looking at Art's Coil Check Stocks at SCI and trying them out. They seemed so large and inefficient for hunting. That was before I selected a Dakota stock and an American Hunting Rifles stock on my big bore rifles. Both rifles are 13-15 lbs, but the stocks are beautiful, well balanced and have low recoil. Moreover, they are made with the hunter in mind. Recently, a friend in a Chicago SCI Chapter showed me his 500 A-squared with the Coil Check Stock. Well, I was amazed. It was a beautiful and functional stock. I inquired if this was the stock. He said it was, BUT had a skilled gun smith reprofile and rebalance the stock on the rifle to match his measurements, at great expense. All that proves is that a skilled craftsmen can make a great stock out of 2 x 6. Dak | |||
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Maybe we are looking at different stocks here. I have only seen the NEW a-square stocks. I haven't seen any A Alphin's stuff. The new stocks that I have seen are pretty nice. | |||
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Dakota Did your friend from Chicago buy the rifle from A2 or did he get it from someone else? A2 takes your measurements and makes the rifle to you. Sounds like he purchased it from someone else. | |||
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Jeffe, I have been hearing the same sort of things about MPI for a while now. I have a few of thier stocks from, oh, about 20 years ago or so, I guess. They were quite nicely done (especially for anything on an Enfield). I don't know if they changed onwership/management, but there does seem to have been a drastic change in what they supply now days. FWIW - Dan | |||
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I personally own 2 A-Square rifles and after owning countless others (besides working for a safari company for several summers and experiancing all of the clients rifles) this thread gets me curious; if the A-Square stock is of such poor design name me a stock that has better function than it does and why(Saeed your included on this one)... I personally enjoy something that does look nice and their are many other stocks out there that have much more swirls to their wood and that to me is 2nd in line to its function, anyone I believe that says different is either buying a tool for the wrong purpose or is not buying it to be a tool. Good hunting, Justin | |||
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Quote: Which (or which kind of) European stocks do you especially dislike ? Regards, Carcano | |||
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I have never, ever in my life come across such shady pruducts as an MPI stock. The photo above does not do justice to how horrible these stocks are. Not a single one is straight! | |||
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I havent paid much attention to this thread so far. Somebody help the dumb cowboy out, are we talking about a fiberglass stock, or the A-Square stock that look like a cross between a half finished varmint stock and a 2x4 or what. I'm kinda getting in on the tail end of this no doubt | |||
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Moonova My friend from Chicago purchased the rifle from A-Squared 8-10 years ago. Actually, I never saw the original 500 A2 rifle stock, just the reprofiled one. Only going on my personal opinion of what I saw and felt at the SCI show. Art maintained it minimized recoil, that I have no doubt. Have never seen newer versions. Dak | |||
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I think this stock looks fine. | |||
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Billy, You have to start at the beginning of the thread. Once you do that, you will realize we started talking about the original, Art Alpin designed, wood stocks he named COIL-CHEK stocks. Then a mention was made of MPI stocks, and of course the truth about these is coming out too. | |||
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