Makes my blood flow just thinking about it.

So you are trying to tell me this is going to replace my 404 Jeffery? LOL!

I thought as much. I was just surprised that the case capacity is so close between the 416 Rem. Mag and the 400 H&H. Looks can be deceiving.

Roger,

If you could slide around the back of the cartridge case (and if this is not one of John's blank heads) you would find an "H&H" looking back at you, as in .375 H&H.

jim

Ahh, Sarge Old Chap, had to edit the post, looks like the crumpets had too much rum in the batter. Meant to say 425 Express, not 425 WR.

I say there, this Long Neck Cartridge is a design that floated across the N. Seas in a Cutty bottle. That burnt peat smell just does something to a Traditional Design.

With all that said, it is time to hop the ferry over to Vicoria B.C. for High Tea in the Empress Hotel.

I read the 425 Express post. Sort of a bad cartridge design.



Well, being a Georgia Born fugitive, I like long neck beer bottles, long necked women, and long necked cartridges.



400 grain Woodleigh, 2402 ft/sec, 5127 ft/lbs, at 49,400 PSI. Works in the M70, the MRC M99, the Mark X, and, with some extra machining and bottom metal, a M98. Feeds like a snake slithering down a rat hole.



Cheerio old chap, photo below.

Now Johnny old chap, would that be based on the full-length .375 case? Somethin' along the lines of a .400 H&H? Hmmmm? Looks like a right decent design. If I had a need for somethin' in that exact bore diameter I might get rather excited. Well done, that company.

So Mr. John Ricks, what would happen if one necked that puppy up to .423 and had a 404 belted Jefferys??? Got enough shoulder, but then perhaps it isn't needed as you have a belt?? Hmmmmmm, that might be a dandy round and you could even use that one in one of those ugly plastic stocked stainless steel rifles without being suspect of child molesting, incest and skull drudgery.

OH, btw I like the look of that round..

Field Marshal Atkinson, Sir, regretfully I have seated a .416 Bullet in the case and it looks OK, but is a discredit to fine British Tradition. A more Noble way to go up in size is as you mention, to .423, thus keeping the traditional bloodlines "Blue".

I know this 400 H&H isn't as practical as the 416 Remington (cost wise), but I just love the looks of this cartridge. Like you say John, it would feed like dropping a marble into a coffee cup. It is just made for a bolt gun and with plenty of zap. What case did this evolve from?

Well now, Mr. Ricks, I'd not be given to down-playin' the .416 bore too much. It has been over-used by the colonists of late, admittedly, but neckin' it up to .423 would, indeed, be an improvement. Field Marshall Atkinson, I move we dub this delightful creation the .423 Ricks Belted Express. Fine lookin' cartridge, by Jove.

So what kind of velocities could one expect from the .411 300 and 360 gr. North Fork bullets ?

Skinner,

I grabbed some .416 Rem data from the Internet, which should be a first approximation of the data you seek:

*300 grain 2,850 fps
*350 grain 2,700 fps

jim

I have a new in the box Model 70 Classic sporter in 7mm Rem. Mag. , I bought it cheap with thoughts of using it as a base to build a big bore. Suitable for 400 H&H or not ?

There seems to be enough .411 projectiles available to keep a guy entertained, Barnes, Woodleigh, Northfork, Hawk, Hornady. As well as a selection of molds for cast bullets.