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If anyone has and is shooting one, would you care to share your experiences? Please? I've got the urge for a .405, I'd prefer a SS and there aren't many choices. Heck if I had one of these I might get rid of several other guns. (yeah, right ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} ) | ||
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Now Hobie... you are very sick right now. ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} You need to go out shooting today to clear your mind, so as you dont do anything irrational. No real flies on the 405, but its obvious you are in a sickened state and may trade guns you didnt want to trade | |||
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Search this forum for old threads, here a range report from a fellow poster. http://www.nookhill.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=003390#000000 | |||
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I've shot one many times and find the .405 to be a fine cartridge. The SS #1 I am shooting is an accurate rifle. Do not beleive you would go wrong getting one. | |||
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Hobie I have had 2 Ruger No1's, a 243 and a 45/70, both 1A's. I still have the 45/70 and I really like it. The 405 No1 will be a fine rifle. | |||
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Dammit! Just I told myself that the 458 Lott was going to be my last bigbore rifle so that I can go to the BIG A, you guys just have to come up with this. I guess I'll just go down to the store and plunk down the cash for the #1 that I've been fondling. Doesn't that laminated stock look nice? | |||
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NE4505#2 you and I both need to rechamber our Ruger number 1's to 450 #2. -rob | |||
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WoooHOOO! The latest American Rifleman has an ad for the Ruger #1 H Tropical Rifle, and included in the list of chamberings is the ".405 WINCHESTER MAG"..... This has got to be the ol' .405 that everyone's lusting for! Trouble is, I wish they'd put it in the same-weight barrel as their .45-70 (can't recall the letter suffix just now). The #1H barrel is just too danged heavy for the .405's performance. Putting it in the .45-70 #1 model would gain a few ounces anyway, due to the smaller hole in the barrel. Anyhoo, it seems that a FACTORY single-shot classic-style .405 is just the price of a #1 away from us. Regards from BruceB (aka Bren Mk1) | |||
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I've been reading all the archives on converting #1 to nitro express cartridges. I just ran across this thread, and a thought occurred to me. Midway has basic 405 brass available. It is 3.25 inches in length. Anyone up for a .405-3.25 Winchester NE wildcat? Just need that gunsmith who always runs the reamer in too deep to work on it. ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} 400 grains at 2100 should be a piece of cake; later I'll get my books out, will look at loading up to about 2300 fps for you velocity junkies. If I were being practical, I'd just look at the no. 1H in .416 Rigby. Where's the fun in that? | |||
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Last evening, I got out the Powley and Cartridges of the World. Made some calculations on the .405 Win for a 300 grain jacketed bullet and got a load of 57 grains of 3031 at 2300 fps with chamber pressure of 45000 psi. CotW says that bullet, that powder & charge weight is good for 2250 fps. So, I felt pretty good about the Powley. It seems to be predicting a bit high, on pressure and velocity, but close enough for this cut and try effort. I scaled up the .405 Win to 3.25 inches (405 Basic Brass), and redid the calculations, all at a chamber pressure of 45000 psi. NOTE, these are predictions, not measurements: 300 gr jacketed, 71 gr of 4895 – 2470fps 350 gr jacketed, 71 gr of 4064 – 2300 fsp 400 gr jacketed, 71 gr of 4320 – 2170 fps So, it looks like a long .405 has some potential. If you ran the pressure up to 50 ksi, you would probably add another 100 fps to the above predictions. | |||
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Robgunbuilder my 450 No2 double weighs 11+lbs. A Ruger No1 in 45/70 re-chambered to 450 No2 AIN'T near heavy enough for me. ![[Eek!]](images/icons/shocked.gif){kind=icon} A man's got to know his limitations. | |||
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quote:Frank, I have been thinking about rechambering to 450/400 3" Nitro Express (or you could also do 450/400 3 1/4" NE). This way reamers, brass, and standard dies are available. These cartridges achieve the velocities you mention with lower pressures. At the higher pressures you contemplate they would be hard on the heels of the 416 Remington, as both have greater case capacity than the 416 Rem. My interest is in matching my 450/400 doubles (well, at least the one with .411 groove diameter) with something that I can scope for longer shots, and use for just plain fun at the range. I wonder if we could generate enough interest to get a special run from Ruger with lighter weight barrels? If so I would be willing to commit to two (one to rechamber, and one to leave as a 405). How about it gentlemen, is anyone interested in taking this idea and making it happen? Jim | |||
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Wouldn't you know it, Phil Shoemaker has an article in the just delivered "Successful Hunter" about the .405. Apparently the gist of it is that its a great round but the Hornady bullets aren't good for more than deer (maybe they misread the market?). Apparently he and Dave Scovill like the Barnes X, Woodleigh and Hawk bullets. Honestly, I'd probably prefer a Winchester 95 but the current trend to adding a safety to lever actions has put me off. At least on the Single Shot, like the No. 1, a tang safety looks right. | |||
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Mbogo375 After I ran the numbers last night, I was wondering what I could do to bring the pressures down. 45-50 ksi is OK for the Ruger, but NE is all about low pressure-high reliability. So, I started looking at the Basic 45 and Basic 50 brass. Before you know it, I was reinventing the 450/400 3" NE. Once I figured that out, I decided to stop and just post the numbers for the long .405 Win. I think a 450/400 NE chambering would be quite the thing to do for these #1s. | |||
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