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<vibrasonic9>
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I've found a guy with a N.I.B. Remington Classic (I think that would be the 1996 model) in .375 H&H. I wanted one in 1996 and couldn't afford it....he has it for $595.00.

I've wanted one since I first became interested in guns. I have a .338 Win Mag. Ruger M77MKII which is a fine gun....I love shooting it, the recoil doesn't bother me at all. I've only punched paper with it though, never hunted with it yet.

I've heard (and read) on several occasions that large caliber cartridges, loaded with the right bullets, will damage less meat than smaller, high-velocity rifles with the very frangible bullets. Can anyone share some personal experience on that?

At any rate, it seems like a deal on that rifle, and in a caliber I really think I would enjoy. I know everyone here in East Texas will think I'm crazy....if what I've read and heard is true, I'd love to prove 'em wrong next season and harvest a nice animal with minimal damage to edible meat.

As always, my same ol' question....how can you over-kill an animal?

Rod

 
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Rod if you want that rifle get it. You only live once and if you do not get it then every day you do not have it will be a day you regret and one more day you will not be able to shoot it. Life is far to short not to have the nice rifles you want.

Try woodleigh projectiles they hang together well and have deep penetration and I do not think they will damage to much meat.
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With the .375 H&H in the North America you don't need special bullets.

My only comment on that Remington is that it's not controlled round feeding. Since the .375 H&H is a DGR I would consider one with that feature. Also that's a lot of money for a used gun. About 50% is all a used gun is worth. In particular after the season.

Go to Walmart and get a price on a new M-70 with CRS. The standard rifles there are about $350 and up NEW!

 
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Get a CRF gun, I much prefer the Winchester M70 classic, to the Rem 700.
 
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I do tend to prefer the CRF of my Rugers and Mausers. This particular Remington is NIB; the guy has 3 of 'em he bought when they came out.....he's an FFL holder.

I don't call myself a big Remington fan and only own one...a bolt .22 rimfire rifle. I thought this might be a good deal since it was one of the classics; but after some research, I see they don't normally go for that much.....I guess the magnum action should fetch a little more, but I remember when they came out that they weren't any more than any other gun per se.

Thanks for the help, I'm really leanin' towards a Winchester SS/Synth. Looks like it might kinda stand up to a little more abuse.

 
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I won't address the old push feed vs. CRF debate this time, but the price seems about $50-100 high to me. I saw one last year in pristine condition with a Leupold 2.5 x 8 scope on it at a gunshow for $595 and kicked myself for not buying it. However, the biggest reason I didn't is something I heard from several people. The classic stock design is pretty nice for the smaller calibers, but for the medium bores and big bores, I understand it kicks like a mule. For one thing, the classic stocks are trim and light,which doesn't really equate to a comfortable experience with the heavy recoilers.
Don, I'd sure like to know where you buy used rifles for 50% of new prices, I'd be lined up to buy everything you could find for me.- Sheister
 
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I took a doe this year with a 375 H&H using a 235 grain soft point. Shot placement accounted for minimal meat damage and maximum impact. If you reload it should be handy for a variety of Texas game.

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The only problem I have with the 375 Classic is when shooting it without a scope (open sights) is I have to push my cheekbone down snug against the stock. Every shot is like getting hit in the side of the head. Not much fun!

Other than that its blue, walnut and doesn't have a truck axle for a barrel. Its also accurate. I like mine.

If you don't plan on hunting dangerous game in east Texas, go for it.

Joe.

P.S. Offer him $500 cash money!

 
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<Don Martin29>
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Sheister,

With a name like that you must pay 25% of new! It's general information that a dealer will buy a used gun for 50% of the retail price. Even that is high. When I make a trade that's what I expect to pay or less.

I have a 2 month old Kel-Tec P-32. It cost me about $215 new. I was offered $50 for it from a dealer.

But I did misread the topic question. The 700 is being sold as new.

 
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Don, I guess that explains it. I don't have a dealer's license and I don't think I could live with myself for some of the insulting treatment some socalled dealers have given me when I tried to make a fair trade with a rifle. Of course, they don't appreciate it when I point out that most of their prices on used guns/scopes is higher than what I can buy the item for new somewhere else.

Oh, and BTW, the spelling you are looking for is "Shyster". Mine means something completely different. - Sheister

 
Posts: 385 | Location: Hillsboro, Oregon | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Wow,50% mark up on used guns?!?!Jeesh,it's 20% to 30% in my parts.

A used gun in like new condition is worth more than 50% of it's new condition.If that was true,I would own a whole lot more used rifles!A gun is one of the few things you can use then either get your money out of or make money on.If you bought just about anything in the Browning line between 1960 and 1975,used it but took fairly good care of it up until now,could could easily double or tripple your money.

Guns,when kept in good condition,NEVER decrease in value-they are worth more every year.

Rod,
Despite what everyone on here says,you do not need CRF to hunt whitetails in Texas.When bucks in Texas start charging hunters,I'll move to there.

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Posts: 529 | Location: Humboldt County,CA | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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I've pretty well decided not to buy that Remington; I know they're great guns..just not really my preference. I have found a Whitworth for $550.00; guy might take less. If any of you folks know of a deal on one, I'd sure love to hear about it.
 
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Has anyone had a chance to mess with the Savage 116SE? That looks like a nice rifle.

I was also wondering if there was anyone making a synthetic stock that the CZ 550 would drop into with minimal smith-work required? I really prefer the straight comb stocks on my guns.

Thanks much,
Rod

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Vibrasonic:

I've got one of the Rem .375s with their synthetic stock and the rifle is fairly light, which translates into a good bit of recoil with normal loads. I'm not going to argue the CRF/push feed here. Both are good, and both will fail. I've shot thousands of rounds through a 700 with nary a failure to feed or extract, but it might happen tomorrow.

My only caveat is the weight of the rifle and the resulting recoil, which is sharp but not unbearable. Where is Montgomery, you might be able to come up and shoot mine and see what you think? Email me if you want.

 
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Originally posted by JHC10:
I took a doe this year with a 375 H&H using a 235 grain soft point. Shot placement accounted for minimal meat damage and maximum impact. If you reload it should be handy for a variety of Texas game.

jeff


Jeff, the heavier the bullet the less damage to meat. He should get a box of 300 gr with Nosler partitions, or Swift A-frames, and you can eat right up to the bullet hole! These bullets do not even open on a deer, but the frontal area is big enough expansion isn't needed. I've shot a lot of North American game with a 375 H&H, and I only use one weight bullet for everything, from coyote, to Hippo, in it, a 300 gr, soft or solid!

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Posts: 14634 | Location: TEXAS | Registered: 08 June 2000Reply With Quote
<Don Martin29>
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My comment on the $ of a used gun was relevant only to what a used gun might bring if sold to a dealer. I said you might get 50% of retail if your lucky. As I pointed out my P-32 has got a offer of 20% so far!

One fact on these big calibers is the shape of the cheekpiece. The shape on the Weatherby M-V is the best. I wish more rifles had this shape. Not the style however. There is nothing else about Weatherby products that I like at all.

The commment on charging whitetails must be in jest. The point of a .375 H&H is not a "baby" of a rifle. It's no .257 Roberts! Get a .375 H&H and get it right. Then it's the queen of them all.

 
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Action stamped 'Whitworth' Interarms Manchester England Alexandria Virginia, there is a star crest and another crest that is probably the CZ crest. Gun Traders Guide says that they were made by Zavodi Crvena Zastava, Belgrade, Yugoslavia. Cal BBl marked 'cal 375H&HMag'. No other pictures.

That is the reply I got from a guy asking $550.00 for a Whitworth. His original description in his ad reads as follows:
375H&H Whitworth $550.00 Includes Warne QD rings and mount with peep(no rear bbl sight), 24" MagnaPorted bbl, bbl band swivel, very crisp 3# trigger. Real clean, accurate gun with only minor stock dings. Add your scope (or use the peep)and your are ready for Kodiac bear, cape buffalo or anything else.... $550 + shipping to your FFL. Scope in picture not included.


Does it sound like a good deal and is the rifle any "more desireable" than any other Whitworth?

Thanks much,
Rod

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Vibrasonic9, the rifle alone is worth the $550 IMO, if it is truely in the shape declared. You have to remember that the Warne peep QD bases & rings are $120 the Magana-port is another $100. Is this the one you were talking about with no iron sights? If so then it is a modified rifle. If the screw holes are there for the iron sights then they have only been removed. since you say it has a peep on the Warne base, it probably has the front ramp sight. If it does have the iron sights with the rear sight on an island with one solid, and two flip-ups.

I happen to have two 375 H&H Whitworth rifles, both with Warne QD rings and bases, both scoped, one in a synthetic stock, for hunting in Alaska's rainey hunting season, and the other still in the factory stock for drier climates like Africa. I have no complaints with either of these rifles, and have not had a failier of any kind with either! If I needed another 375 H&H I'd grab that one!

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Rod, I'm with Mac on this one. That is a very good deal with the extras listed- on a very sound and well built rifle. I've looked at several CZ's, and if I didn't already have a Pre 64 Win., I'd buy one in a minute. I think they are the best value on the market these days. The Warne bases and rings just make a good deal even better. Best you jump on it before he comes to his senses or somebody else sees his ad! - Sheister
 
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Don Martin29,

Man,the dealers in your area must be real sticklers.Here dealers mostly give you 70%-80% of retail for your gun.Anything less IMO is a slap in the face.

The charging whitetails was in reference to that he really doesn't "need" CRF for hunting whitetails.I agree that the 375 would be quite effective on deer.BTW,I'll be hunting blacktails next season with my 458 loaded with 500 grain Hornadys.Overkill?Depends on how you look at it.

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Posts: 529 | Location: Humboldt County,CA | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Sheister hit it right on the head, the Classic stock is too light and brutal with large calibers. The barrels seem thinner too. Had a 300 wby in the Rem Classic model and traded it in after 1 year, and one elk I might add. The recoil was horrible. Got the same caliber in a Wby Mark V and the difference was incredible!

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This is the one I have a deal pending on for $565.00 shipped to my door.
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Well, no wonder I never got a response back from that guy! You beat me to it. Thats a good deal, especially with those rings. Hope its a shooter for you!

Jarrett

 
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The guy seems real nice, can't believe he wouldn't at least reply. I'm sending payment next week when I get back from my hunt in South Texas. We made the deal and he allowed me the time to get my bonus from work and line out a dealer to ship to etc... I'm excited.
Rod

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