Bored and curious as to others ideal 416's. I hunt in Alaska and use mostly stainless and synthetic. But, do appreciate fine walnut and blue.

Today,my Favorite #1 is the 416 Ruger in a stainless Mark II with 20" barrel. The rifle currently still has the factory Hogue on it with a 1.5-6x42 Kahles.
Waiting on a McMillan to arrive within 2-3 weeks. I used the rifle last year with 350 TSX for moose. Three week vacation in a tent with more days of rain than not(typical moose season).
I do not care for the appearance of the stock, but it works. The present scope was put on for Very quick load development and left on due to lack of time.
The scope will be changed to either a 1.1-4x24 Zeiss with #54 reticle or a Swarvoski 1-6x24 #4, undecided as of yet, have both on hand.
The 20" barrel is handy, but have the urge for having one put together with a 22" barrel.

Favorite #2 is a M70 375 H&H Classic SS re-barreled to 416 Rem with a 22" stainless barrel, black cerakote, in an HS Precision stock.
I had been thinking of a re-barrel like this for years and stumbled across this one for sale. Purchased this year and only fired a few rounds at the range so far. Undecided as to the scope that will be going on it. It came with a Leupold 1-5x20 #4. I do like that reticle.
Though, still thinking of having another put together with some minor modifications, slightly lighter barrel contour with possibly a 1-12 twist, different stock and bottom metal.

Personally, my favorite is a .416 Rigby in Dakota 76. It fits me well, its plenty accurate enough, and I have killed a bunch of Buffalo with it. Mine is blued and walnut, but I don't hunt Alaska and its weather that much.

I do think you will get as many answers as there are folks who have rifles.

My favorite is an Interarms Mk X I rebarellerd in .416 Ruger. 7.6 lbs w/o scope. 26" barrel. Much livelier than my CZ 550 416 Rigby!

416 Rigby in a CZ. The set trigger lets you steady your aim on a stationary target at a longer distance.

crbutler:
Years ago, I admired many times, in a local gun store, a Dakota African, beautiful wood and blueing.

z1r:
I have considered re-boring a Mark X in 375 to 416 Rem, and/or re-barreling a 458 Mark X to 416 Ruger, and adding a 3-postion safety. Though, could not force myself to change the current chamberings. Though my 458 rifles are more of just because rifles.

Idaho Sharpshooter:
I have a 458 Lott in the CZ with synthetic stock that has had some AHR care, their 3-position safety and trigger, barrel cut to 22", sights, and coating.
I like this rifle. It definitely has a generous sized action.

I have to go with my 416 B&M in a winchester WSM action--Stock By Ray Atkinson, trijicon 1x4 green triangle scope

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Today,my Favorite #1 is the 416 Ruger in a stainless Mark II with 20" barrel.

I think that you have a great rifle. Absolutely fantastic cartridge and rifle design. (And no, I don't own one, only several 416 Rigbys.)

The 350 TTSX is about as good as it gets, though you could try the 330 grain GSC and 307 tipped Safari Raptor to see which was most accurate.

.416 Rigby in a Ruger RSM.

If I was building one of them I'd do a 416 Remington on a Defiance m70 clone action with the integral scope mounts. I'd use a HS Precision Magazine Box, and a McMillan H.Lawson thumbhole stock.

It would not have sights, but it would have a muzzle brake.

Scope would be a 1.7-10 Swarovski.

Trigger would be a 2 stage set at 3.5 pounds.

I use 2 .416 caliber rifles. Love my Model 70 Winchester in .416 Remington. Easy to shoot, comfortable and very accurate with either Reloader 15 or IMR 4064. Both powders get 2400 fps with 400 grain bullets. Favorite rifle is my Kimber .416 Rigby. Beautiful rife and wonderful cartridge. H4831 and 400 grains bullets make for a very accurate and pleasant shooting rifle. (Look's pretty nice too!) I use Hornady bullets for practice and Woodleigh's for business. Solids are Norma and I will be working up loads using the Cutting Edge bullets this fall

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I'd do a 416 Remington on a Defiance m70 clone action

Defiance has actions with claw-extractors?

And if you're going to have an H&H-length magazine, you might as well make it a 416Rigby. The Rigby has about 25 grains of capacity more than the Remington, or about a 200 fps advantage, should you wish. You can always load a Rigby down to Remington levels but you can't load a Remington up to full Rigby (i.e. Weatherby) levels.

My favorite .416 at the moment is this custom Mauser that Danny Pedersen re-bored for me to a .416 Ruger. Most of the metalwork on the rifle was originally done by a dear friend of mine and amateur gun tinkerer, the late M.R."Bud"Miller, with substantial assistance by Jules La Bantchni. After Danny did his magic, I sent the barreled action and a nice stick of English walnut to Gary Goudy for one of his superb stock jobs. So far I've shot nothing but paper with it, but I'm sure that somewhere in Zim there is a stud buffalo just waiting for this rifle to do him in.

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Originally posted by 416Tanzan:

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I'd do a 416 Remington on a Defiance m70 clone action

Defiance has actions with claw-extractors?

And if you're going to have an H&H-length magazine, you might as well make it a 416Rigby. The Rigby has about 25 grains of capacity more than the Remington, or about a 200 fps advantage, should you wish. You can always load a Rigby down to Remington levels but you can't load a Remington up to full Rigby (i.e. Weatherby) levels.

Yep, they do.

Found a photo of the bolt-side view of the .416 Ruger custom. I thought you might like to see both sides of the rifle.

AHR .416 Rigby

To me, AHR definitely changes the CZ's to a very appealing rifle.

MS Hitman:
I really like those RSM's. And if, I ever purchase one it would be a Rigby. Suppose I am waiting for the prices to going up more!!

Tsquare2:
Beautiful rifle. I am a big fan of the 416 & 375 Ruger cartridges. Getting ready to head to the range to see if I can figure out a new chronograph and check some velocities on both.

416Tansan:
Had No Doubt what your pick would be, The Rigby. Maybe some day I will try one of those big powder burners.

375ej:
I also am fond of my M70 in the 416 Rem. Kimber has made some very nice nice rifles in the wood / blued. I do do not have any, but do have a couple of the Stainless / synthetic Montana versions that I am pleased with.

Big Wonderful Wyoming:
Intersting idea regarding the controlled round feed Defiance action, seen pictures of them. Nice looking action and I like integral mounting systems.

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Originally posted by Sean Russell:
I have to go with my 416 B&M in a winchester WSM action--Stock By Ray Atkinson, trijicon 1x4 green triangle scope

Michael has done a LOT of work on those cartridges and the terminal performance of bullets !! He has created some very efficient packages. I think the 416 B&M and Ruger a pretty close in ballistics.

I went with the Ruger due having bought brass shortly after it was produced. I finally convinced myself to purchase the rifle several years following.

I could sell most of my big bores and get along just fine. This .416 Ruger Alaskan would be the only one that I would absolutely keep.....

416 RUM

I only own one, and it's a CZ in .416 Rigby. It's going back to Zim in 37 days to hunt another Buffalo. Both of us are ready.

My Allen Martin/Teddy Ulmer CZ550M .416 Rigby:











When the time came to decide on wood selection and metal finishes, I'm the one that insisted on a plain, Cerakoted matte black, laminate stocked working rifle.

An "AHR reject" according to the expert commentators (though not actual buyers, per se) on the Classified's Forum. It's the price for not being pretty looking.

It's purely utilitarian, but it grows on you.

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Originally posted by JCS271:
I could sell most of my big bores and get along just fine. This .416 Ruger Alaskan would be the only one that I would absolutely keep.....

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Great picture. I have no doubt that the 416 Ruger will accomplish anything that I would need or want in a larger bore. Those Alaskan's are pleasure to carry and tougher than hell. Mine has taken the place of a 20" barreled Marlin 45/70 for a walk-about rifle.
No Cape Buffalo on the agenda, but has worked on one small moose. And hopefully larger ones in the future.
The 416 Ruger Alaskan is my favorite timber rifle. I do have a replacement stock ordered. But after using as is for a season, I cannot argue with it functionality or toughness. And the rifle shoots quiet accurately as is.

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Originally posted by K Evans:
I only own one, and it's a CZ in .416 Rigby. It's going back to Zim in 37 days to hunt another Buffalo. Both of us are ready.

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K Evans,
Best of luck on the upcoming hunt. As they say, you only need one.

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Originally posted by Off_Shore:
My Allen Martin/Teddy Ulmer CZ550M .416 Rigby:

When the time came to decide on wood selection and metal finishes, I'm the one that insisted on a plain, Cerakoted matte black, laminate stocked working rifle.

An "AHR reject" according to the expert commentators (though not actual buyers, per se) on the Classified's Forum. It's the price for not being pretty looking.

It's purely utilitarian, but it grows on you.

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Looks fine to me.

I bought my son an LH Model 70 Classic stainless/synthetic in 416 Rem. We had the barrel shortened to 22" at his request, a 12 ounce mercury recoil reducer installed (for balance mainly), a Pachmayer Decelerator recoil pad installed and had the whole thing CeraKoted except the jeweled bolt. It's wearing a Leupold 1.5-5x scope on CeraKoted Talley QR rings now. He likes it a lot. If I were buying one it would be a 416 Rigby, except I don't need a medium bore lol ...

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Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
416 RUM

Is the 416 RUM the same as the 416 UMT, the Towsley's version ?

Excellent looking rifles. Not quite sure I could justify a 416 already having a 375 and 458 (but then again, who needs justification??), but if I did I'd look hard to emulate Will's 416 (Taylor I think??) he built on a medium size CZ550 action. Hoping he posts some pics of it in this thread, although I think he recently sold it on here.

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Originally posted by FFemtRN5287:
Excellent looking rifles. Not quite sure I could justify a 416 already having a 375 and 458 (but then again, who needs justification??), but if I did I'd look hard to emulate Will's 416 (Taylor I think??) he built on a medium size CZ550 action. Hoping he posts some pics of it in this thread, although I think he recently sold it on here.

That is exactly why you need a 416, makes the other redundant

I've got the 416 Rem Mag in a Blaser R93 with a Synthetic stock and a wooden one, so I've got one rifle for all conditions. Currently using a Schmidt & Bender 1.5-6x42 on it but thinking of using the 416s versatility more and loading 330gr GS Custom HV's and mounting a Zeiss 2.5-10x50. Initial testing has shown that 2650-2700fps is easily attainable with them.

I like the 416 Ruger in the Alaskan version, it's much lighter than most 416 factory offerings which is my only gripe with the Blaser and its 22mm muzzle diameter barrel. The Righy is obviously the classic, but personally I'd rather shoot a 404 if I was to be nostalgic.

Now if Winchester would make their extreme weather s/s in 416 Rem Mag I would be very tempted to sell the Blaser.



This is my Blaser wearing it's Wooden stock with a Nyala I hunted a few years back.

I cannot pick just one .416-caliber rifle as my favorite, nor can I justify my motley battery,
but let me think about it a bit ...



... and post new weapon pictures later, since I don't have any new .416-caliber weapons, just old ones, maybe some new pictures of old weapons ...

I have owned and used several Ruger No.1 and CZ 550 Magnum rifles in .416 Rigby that have been re-barreled to wildcats.
They served admirably for fallow deer to 370 yards and water buffalo ( Bubalis bubalis ) at 50 to 150 yards.
But the Ruger RSM .416 Rigby is still my most accurate .416, a one-shot cape buffalo killer in Botswana in 2001:



I have no doubt that it has the standard CIP chamber with this throat:


My current .416-caliber battery:

.416 Taylor, Ruger MkII M77 stainless, Shilen No.4 sporter 1:14" twist, 26" barrel

.416 Ruger, Hawkeye Alaskan, matte stainless, factory 1:14" twist, 20" barrel: Only 7.0 lbs dry weight when switched to a 1.5# canoe paddle stock.

.416 Ruger, No.1-H Tropical, stainless/laminate, factory 1:14" twist, 24" barrel: 8.125 lbs dry

.416 Barnes Supreme, Whitworth MarkX, custom, Douglas No.4 sporter, 1:12" twist, 24" barrel: My first .416, by Willis Fowler, 1987 ...
Then Remington had to go and bring out their .416 RemMag, very similar to the circa-1949 .416 BS.

.416 RemMag, Winchester M70 Classic Safari Express, standard model, matte blue/walnut, factory 1:14", 24" barrel: 9.125 lbs dry weight

.416 RemMag, Winchester M70 Classic Big Five Custom Shop Limited Edition, "Cape Buffalo Model," matte blue/walnut, factory 1:14" twist, 24" barrel: 9.125 lbs dry

.416 Dakota, Winchester M70 Classic, custom (re-barreled 300 RUM), Douglas stainless No.5 sporter, 1:12" twist, 24" barrel

.416 Rigby, Ruger M77 RSM Generation II (photo above), factory 1:14" twist, 24" fat barrel, 10.75 lbs dry weight, but it is accurate:



Last but not least,
.416 Barrett, Barrett M99, singleshot, bull pup, factory 1:12" twist, 32" heavy barrel: 25.0 lbs dry weight, 1/2 MOA with 400-grainers at 3250 fps,
needs further load development for varmint hunting.


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Originally posted by Deon:

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Originally posted by FFemtRN5287:
Excellent looking rifles. Not quite sure I could justify a 416 already having a 375 and 458 (but then again, who needs justification??), but if I did I'd look hard to emulate Will's 416 (Taylor I think??) he built on a medium size CZ550 action. Hoping he posts some pics of it in this thread, although I think he recently sold it on here.

That is exactly why you need a 416, makes the other redundant

I've got the 416 Rem Mag in a Blaser R93 with a Synthetic stock and a wooden one, so I've got one rifle for all conditions. Currently using a Schmidt & Bender 1.5-6x42 on it but thinking of using the 416s versatility more and loading 330gr GS Custom HV's and mounting a Zeiss 2.5-10x50. Initial testing has shown that 2650-2700fps is easily attainable with them.

I like the 416 Ruger in the Alaskan version, it's much lighter than most 416 factory offerings which is my only gripe with the Blaser and its 22mm muzzle diameter barrel. The Righy is obviously the classic, but personally I'd rather shoot a 404 if I was to be nostalgic.

Now if Winchester would make their extreme weather s/s in 416 Rem Mag I would be very tempted to sell the Blaser.



This is my Blaser wearing it's Wooden stock with a Nyala I hunted a few years back.

FFemtRN5287:
I agree with the "who needs justification"
and also Deon's comment that the 416's do make the "others" redundant.
But, I also can appreciate redundancy! And have little defense or justification for my 458 Win & Lott, other than just because. Do wish Barnes would make a 458 400 gr TSX though.

Deon:
Those Nyala are beautiful animals, and would be on my list if I ever ventured to their area.
An old story but, my only dislike of the new M70's is the change in trigger design.
My son has a 300 Win in the extreme weather Portugal assembled, which appears to be a slick and well made rifle. He also has a 338 Alaskan (South Carolina manufactured), stainless/laminated with pre-64 sight hump with 25" barrel that also seems well made.

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Originally posted by JCS271:
I could sell most of my big bores and get along just fine. This .416 Ruger Alaskan would be the only one that I would absolutely keep.....

(nice picture of buffalo and 416 Ruger Alaskan [in case of a de-link in the future])

I'm with you.

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416Tanzan:
Had No Doubt what your pick would be, The Rigby. Maybe some day I will try one of those big powder burners.

Actually, if I buy or acquire another .416 it will probably be a 416 Ruger. Yes, I love the 416 Rigby, but only when hand loading over 6000 foot-pounds. When I enter my 70's I can see myself downsizing, a la Atkinson, and a 416 Ruger, maybe the African model or a re-run of the Alaskan, looks awfully appealing. Boom.
Unless I really go soft and just borrow my wife's 375Ruger. )

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RIP:
I cannot pick just one .416-caliber rifle as my favorite, nor can I justify my motley battery,
but let me think about it a bit ...

... and post new weapon pictures later, since I don't have any new .416-caliber weapons, just old ones, maybe some new pictures of old weapons ...

My current .416-caliber battery:

.416 Taylor, Ruger MkII M77 stainless, Shilen No.4 sporter 1:14" twist, 26" barrel

.416 Ruger, Hawkeye Alaskan, matte stainless, factory 1:14" twist, 20" barrel: Only 7.0 lbs dry weight when switched to a 1.5# canoe paddle stock.

.416 Ruger, No.1-H Tropical, stainless/laminate, factory 1:14" twist, 24" barrel: 8.125 lbs dry

.416 Barnes Supreme, Whitworth MarkX, custom, Douglas No.4 sporter, 1:12" twist, 24" barrel: My first .416, by Willis Fowler, 1987 ...
Then Remington had to go and bring out their .416 RemMag, very similar to the circa-1949 .416 BS.

.416 RemMag, Winchester M70 Classic Safari Express, standard model, matte blue/walnut, factory 1:14", 24" barrel: 9.125 lbs dry weight

.416 RemMag, Winchester M70 Classic Big Five Custom Shop Limited Edition, "Cape Buffalo Model," matte blue/walnut, factory 1:14" twist, 24" barrel: 9.125 lbs dry

.416 Dakota, Winchester M70 Classic, custom (re-barreled 300 RUM), Douglas stainless No.5 sporter, 1:12" twist, 24" barrel

.416 Rigby, Ruger M77 RSM Generation II (photo above), factory 1:14" twist, 24" fat barrel, 10.75 lbs dry weight, but it is accurate:

Last but not least,
.416 Barrett, Barrett M99, singleshot, bull pup, factory 1:12" twist, 32" heavy barrel: 25.0 lbs dry weight, 1/2 MOA with 400-grainers at 3250 fps,needs further load development for varmint hunting.
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RIP:
You may very well be the king of 416's. Definitely have more varieties than anyone I know of.
I can only account for 4.
2ea - 416 Ruger Alaskans, presently as factory issued, other than 1 scoped.

1ea - 416 Rem M70 Classic stainless re-barrel

1ea - 416 M70 Safari, purchased prior to
Winchesters previous demise. And actually forgotten about! Still unfired.

I have had 2 other M70's previously. Before I finally decided that it was senseless not always have at least one.

It's a toss up for fondness between 375's and 416's.

** Also, damn nice buffalo picture **

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chuck375:
I bought my son an LH Model 70 Classic stainless/synthetic in 416 Rem. We had the barrel shortened to 22" at his request, a 12 ounce mercury recoil reducer installed (for balance mainly), a Pachmayer Decelerator recoil pad installed and had the whole thing CeraKoted except the jeweled bolt. It's wearing a Leupold 1.5-5x scope on CeraKoted Talley QR rings now. He likes it a lot. If I were buying one it would be a 416 Rigby, except I don't need a medium bore lol ...

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Chuck,
I think the M70 Classic stainless conversions to 416 Rem are near perfect with 22" barrels.
The used one that I picked up with CeraKote, has me thinking of CeraKoting some other ss rifle. Appears to be a good coating.

Medium bores are my favorites. And honestly, the 416 Rem with 400 grainers is the limit of what I consider pleasurable fun to shoot. And frankly prefer the 350 grain TSX for my 416 use.

Exception being the 458 Win with 400 grain bullets. The Lott with 500 grainers is... well an occasional thrill. It will be getting 400 grain bullets of some sort, just going a bit faster than the Winchester.

Nice great minds think a like

my is a 416 Rigby in a Ruger RSM with a Trijicon 1-4.
IT shoots the lights out of everything I aim at and it points very well ,when i pick it up to shoot.