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404 Jeffery
08 October 2001, 12:54
Longbob404 Jeffery
Where can I get a quality, workman 404 Jeffery. I'm not looking for a fancy stock or engraving of any sort. Criteria: Reliable feeding, CRF, good open sights, and under $1,500. Is it possible
08 October 2001, 13:24
GeorgeSGet a surplus Mauser and have it built to your specs. You should be able to do it within that budget.
George
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Shoot straight, shoot often, but by all means, use enough gun!
08 October 2001, 15:11
470 Mbogo[QUOTE]Originally posted by Longbob
Hi Longbob,
Does Ruger not chamber for the 404 Jeffery? With the barrel fluted the balance is improved greatly. 470 Mbogo
08 October 2001, 16:54
GeorgeSRuger does not have a .404 in their catalog; as I remember, they only offered the .404 in their Ruger #1.
George
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Shoot straight, shoot often, but by all means, use enough gun!
08 October 2001, 17:18
boltmanWhat about getting a Winchester M70 safari classic in .375 H&H or .416 Remington mag and having it rebarreled to 404 Jeff? I ask this because I've thought of having it done. A safari classic costs about $800 and I'd think you could send it to some like Mark Penrod and have it rebarreled as well as the feeding slicked up for the extra $700.
09 October 2001, 12:52
AtkinsonBoltman has the right idea as to getting into a good 404 at that price...but unless you just have to have a 404, I'd say the 416 Remington is just as good from a practical standpoint, and believe me it grieves me to put that in print with some of these vultures hanging around to nail me on that statement!!

I do love the 404 Jefferys and have used it for years.
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Ray Atkinson
ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com
09 October 2001, 13:08
LongbobRay! Say it ain't so!
09 October 2001, 13:52
OldsargeThe M70 conversion is really a good idea for some portsider who doesn't think that the .375 carries quite enough pop. Logically, Ray is right about caliber and Boltman and George are right about soul. Ray is too, but at least he's honest about it. I've got the same idea. Try contacting Nick@bigbores.com for somewhat the same thing. Do you by chance have an action already?
09 October 2001, 14:03
LongbobSarge, I do not have anything. Just a clean sheet of paper.
09 October 2001, 15:33
Mike375Longbob,
I think the 404 misses out on something if it is not done on a Mauser. For that reason if a Model 70 was used I would be inclined to agree with Ray and go with 416 Remington.
This will be especially the case if you want to play around with cast bullets and Hornadies and Speer bullets etc.
Mike
10 October 2001, 13:26
OldsargeBob,
Reason I suggested is the very reasonable price Nick quoted me when I provided my own action and peep sights. Talk to da man.
Sarge
10 October 2001, 14:35
LongbobSarge, are you talking about Nickadu? By the way, how are those chapters coming along?

12 October 2001, 06:02
AtkinsonLongbob,
Mike 375 is right on the Mauser nostalgia, but thats no biggie, find a good Mark 10 or a used Custom or simi custom Mauser that strikes your fancy and just rebarrel it...
I recently purchased a Mauser Mod A in 10.75x68 (.423 bore), shoots one hole at 50 yds, but due to headspace and Bertram brass I,m having some problems with it that I don't want to worry with (fireforming Bertram brass) so I packed it up and sent it off to our own John Ricks for some kind of a 404, still thinking about that one..With the addition of a Blackburn box and a re-chamber and a little work, presto 404 Jefferys. A plus is the value just jumped about $3000. for $500 worth of work.
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Ray Atkinson
ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com
13 October 2001, 12:07
OldsargeBob,
Affirmative on Nikudu.
I got as far as Class III and then work and 9/11 sort of overwhelmed me. Hope to get back to work on the last section next week.
Sarge
13 October 2001, 12:25
LongbobI kinda wish Nickadu would weigh in with his thoughts. And that way I could contact him.
Sarge, I've been dogging you about the chapters and it is all in good fun. I really do look forward to you posting your results. 
13 October 2001, 14:54
DB BillRay....you've got to start shooting more than one shot to test grouping or you will always get one0hole groups.

13 October 2001, 14:56
DB BillOld Sarge.....Mathews Gun Shop in Downey has a set of .404 dies cheap in their used box.
14 October 2001, 05:45
AtkinsonDB,
Give me one reason why I should mess up a perfectly good one hole group by firing another shot????
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Ray Atkinson
ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com
14 October 2001, 05:49
AtkinsonDB,
I could use thoes dies if Sarge passes on them...Tried to email you but no go....
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Ray Atkinson
ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com
15 October 2001, 17:22
OldsargeDB,
Thanx! I'll call Matthews as soon as I can get ot a phone on Monday.
Sarge