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Like everyone else I have been unable to get magnum primers. I'd like to load up some rounds for my big bores but only have CCI large rifle primers. Does anyone have any idea how large rifle primers, as opposed to magnum primers, would work in a 404j, 416 rigby, or 458wm? | ||
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I have used them in the smaller magnums like the 458 Win and 375 H&H and they seem to work fine - although I only use them for practice loads. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Generally, they wont work well and setting off large powder charges will be iffy. Some are hotter than others and I'd probably do a test to find which is which or see if its available on the web. In straight walled cases like the .458 win mag, .500NE, .600OK you might get away with a few grains of blue dot and a tissue paper disc to light off the main charge. In bottlenecked cases you might try enlarging the flash hole and see if that works.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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It would depend on the powder type & charge wt. If you are using med. burners like RL15 or IMR4064, you might be fine upto 70-75gr. For slower powders, larger charges, mag primers are going to be a better bet. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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It was suggested by my outfitter last year that a LR primer in a .375 was the way to go to avoid high temperature issues. I used CCI primers, 74 gr of RL-15, and 270 gr TSXs and had no probblems at all. But as fredj indicates powder choice, weight, and case may well influence the performance. "Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult." | |||
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I had some bad hangfires with H414 and a 70.gr.charge ....so dont do that one,,,,thats were i realized after checking on here at AR,that many reloaders draw the line at 60 grains, if the charge is over 60grains use a magnum primer, if under a standerd large rifle primer is fine.. good luck & hope this helps...Iam with you...maybe primers will be back on the shelves before to long...i need some now too,,,  | |||
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HAVE USED CCI BR-2 LARGE RIFLE PRIMERS IN TWO 375 H&H RIFLES. POWDERS WERE RL 15 AND 4064. BULLETS WERE 235 TO 300 GRS. GOOD ACCURACY WITH ACCEPTABLE VELOCITIES. NO TEMPERATURE PROBLEMS. | |||
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I concur with the medium powders and the BR-2. Varget in the Nitro For Black loads they are ok. Using them with 100+ grains of AA-3100 or H-4831, etc,don't think i would count on uniform ignition. I try to use 215-GM whenever possiible on the heavy loads of slow powders DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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In my 404 Jeffery with some H4831 SC using a Federal 210 I had a hangfire and then a partial ignition of powder. I'll never use a standard primer in a large case again! Call Graf & Sons place an order to be filled if they don't have the primers you want in stock. When they come in they will fill the order. That's the way I bought 5000 Federal 215 Match primers. It took a while, but they filled the order. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I have always used the std Winchester WLR only in my 375 H&H with up to 83.0gr of W760 and never had a problem. The WLR are supposed to be the hottest of the non-magnum primers. In fact one of our local gun writers recommends them. I also use them in my 300WSM with no problems at all. regards JohnT | |||
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. I have had some pretty big variation in velocity using standard primers . If loading for my life I use Fed 215s in my 458s or 416s . Anything above 80 gr I think needs a Fed 215 . For cold weather I prefer a magnum primer ...and for between 60and 80 grains I use a normal mag rifle primer ,CCI Rem 9 1/2 , WLRM .But like I say , If I really need that round to go Bang and it is 70 gr of powder or more I use a 215 .. .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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I have used magnum pistol primers in my leverguns. I was told and read somewhere that they are softer which was good in cold weather but burned just as hot as the magnum rifle. I had good results with them in 45/70 hot loads, and I had a surplus to boot. I'd look into the hotness though before going into a big bore. Just an idea WOODY Everyone is allowed an opinion, even if its wrong. | |||
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