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Wrist Pin
14 January 2010, 06:57
SevensWrist Pin
I'm seeking the advice of the experts. I was fiddling around with a stock for my 375 H&H. I'm debating whether to put a wrist pin in the stock. It's nothing fancy, just a working stock. It has the crossbolts and glass bedding (from the front action screw to the barrel recoil lug).
What's everyone thoughts on a wrist pin? I included a pic below to show the grain (not sure if it's proper through the wrist). Thanks!
14 January 2010, 06:59
jeffeossoawesome stock .. i would have a smith put a pin in the wrist axially .. too little money for insurance
14 January 2010, 10:43
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
awesome stock .. i would have a smith put a pin in the wrist axially .. too little money for insurance
I agree, that is a good stock. But there is no need to do anything to the wrist. It is only a 375. You already have it bedded with two crossbolts and a barrel mounted lug. You are already well into the overkill range for a 375 IMO.
Jason
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14 January 2010, 15:06
MasteriflemanFrom the look of the grain through the wrist, I'm with Jeffeosso. If you just happened to fall with your hand on the wrist and hit the ground heavily, it could split right there. It's always best when laying out a stock to have the grain flow in a downward curve through that area. Yours is pretty nearly straight across the grip.
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14 January 2010, 19:30
TommyhawkI must be looking at the wrong picture. The grain flow on the rifle in the picture on my computer has a nearly perfect grain flow. The only "weakness" from the grain flow on this stock is at the toe. The 1" pad reduces that to something not to ever worry about. You can't get a better layout through the grip. Drilling and epoxying in a pin through the grip of this stock is a waste of time and money.
14 January 2010, 19:47
<Mike McGuire>You could trade the rifle on a Weatherby as they come standard with the rod through the wrist

14 January 2010, 20:59
jeffeossoi have no issues with the grain pattern .
a wrist pin IS STRONGER than the wood around it ...
the risk is "what if" .. the insurance is "wrist pin" .. the downside of a wrist pin is ZERO ..
just like you don't NEED a recoil pad ...
the gun still works fine without one and is unlikely to break the stock
but it makes you feel better shooting it
LOL
14 January 2010, 21:05
DWrightWrist pin would be nice IF you ride a horse with the rifle. But would not install one otherwise. Has perfect grain for strength in that area. But as Jeffeosso said, it will not hurt anything. You choose.
15 January 2010, 03:27
SevensThanks for the compliments on the stock guys, the pictures make it look much nicer than it is.
So general consensus seems to be a wrist pin isn't going to help much unless I fall on it or ride horses. So I don't really have much concern regarding recoil from a 375? The rear tang is relieved, just in case that makes a difference.
15 January 2010, 04:44
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by Sevens:
So I don't really have much concern regarding recoil from a 375? The rear tang is relieved, just in case that makes a difference.
A 375 just does not generate enough recoil to break a stock at the wrist
unless the wrist was
very weak. Yours looks good....
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
15 January 2010, 05:49
mrjulian_1970quote:
Originally posted by JBrown:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
awesome stock .. i would have a smith put a pin in the wrist axially .. too little money for insurance
I agree, that is a good stock. But there is no need to do anything to the wrist. It is only a 375. You already have it bedded with two crossbolts and a barrel mounted lug. You are already well into the overkill range for a 375 IMO.
Keep in mind, the forces transmitted through the wrist during recoil have nothing to do with the presence (or lack thereof) of cross-bolts, bedding, and barrel lugs.
15 January 2010, 09:54
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by mrjulian_1970:
Keep in mind, the forces transmitted through the wrist during recoil have nothing to do with the presence (or lack thereof) of cross-bolts, bedding, and barrel lugs.
I agree. My point is that he has more than covered the bases for a 375. As I said:
quote:
quote:
A 375 just does not generate enough recoil to break a stock at the wrist unless the wrist was very weak. Yours looks good....
Jason
Jason
"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________
Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.
Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.
-Jason Brown
17 January 2010, 00:05
Winchester 69quote:
Originally posted by Sevens:
So general consensus seems to be a wrist pin isn't going to help much unless I fall on it or ride horses.
The real contingency could be your horse falling on it.
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17 January 2010, 01:53
chuck375By the way that's a nice looking rifle!
I don't have a wrist pin in my 500 Jeffery, maybe I should, I don't think the grain in my stock is nearly as straight as yours. I have 300 rounds through it so far, Harlan at Triple River who rebarreled it said all should be fine without it.
Chuck
Regards,
Chuck
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17 January 2010, 04:04
jeffeossoChuck,
remember, Harlan also sent out a BUNCH of unxbolted and unbedded custom shop cz ... this has changed.
All
It's MY opinion that a wrist pin is SOP for any rifle I bother to bed .. its TOO easy to do .. and the down side is "broken stock, please insert 2k USD"
17 January 2010, 22:45
Sevensquote:
It's MY opinion that a wrist pin is SOP for any rifle I bother to bed .. its TOO easy to do .. and the down side is "broken stock, please insert 2k USD"
Well, when you put it that way ... where's the drill, some all thread, and some epoxy!
18 January 2010, 06:46
jeffeossouse brass or Stainless, please .. but yep .. that's how it goes!
18 January 2010, 07:59
chuck375Good point jeffeosso, particularly as I've very slowly worked myself up to stiffer loads. I plan to drop the rifle off at Kevin Weaver's (my local gunsmith) to do a few tweaks (larger diameter hi-Vis front sight, stiffer magazine spring and double check the feeding), I'll ask him to put in a wrist pin while he's got it.
Regards,
Chuck
Regards,
Chuck
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