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My guess is that the European rifle manufacturers went to Norma soon after Remington stopped making 416 Rem Mag brass. It is good brass. Jamison 416 Rem Mag brass is also good brass. Any differences in capacity, hardness, weight, wall thickness, rim thickness and rim diameter are trivial (to my measurements). The first run of Jamison ran out, I believe they will be stocking it for a long time. Which brand you buy will be up to you and your nature, both will treat you right. The old, and oft repeated canard about all Norma brass being soft is just that. They make all Weatherby brass (which is as hard as woodpecker lips), and often make brass for Lapua (which has a reputation for hardness). A year ago there was only one maker of 416 Rem Mag brass; Remington. Now we have two It will likely take a while for the Swedish brass to make its way across the Atlantic. Huntington's and Graf's will likely have it by Christmas (I believe this, but do not know it to be true). One more canard: the belief that the 416 Rem Mag is doomed to produce dangerously high pressures in hot climates, a la the 458 Win Mag cartridge as loaded by Winchester in the early sixties. Just load it to a reasonable load density with RL-15, Varget or another temperature (not so sensitive) medium burning rate powder. Given a correctly proportioned chamber, you will not have sticky extraction, case separations and such. Enjoy. LD  | ||
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Good news, LD! Thanks for the info. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Winchester are now making factory ammo for the 416 Rem so maybe they will make brass available as well? It would be in their own interest - given that the 416Rem is one of the cals they are chambering in the new M70 Safari Express. I too have had absolutely no problems with pressure, sticky bolt lift or anything like that with my 416Rem M70. I suspect that whole thing came about with early hotloaded Remington Factory ammo. Its a good cal imo..... | |||
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Lawndart, Jamison is not currently stocking 416Rem brass. After your post when they made the last run, I called and ordered 80 rounds of brass. They had sold out but said they would be manufacturing some in a week. That was two months ago. I called them about 3 weeks ago to check up and they said they were experiencing some tooling issues but hoped to be making the 416 Rem soon. Guess I need to call them again. Good to hear there are some more sources coming forth. EZ
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Jamison has become very careful to only put out quality brass. If someone or some people sends me a fired Winchester, Federal and Jamison case, I can put most of the suspects in a line-up picture. We would lack only a Wolfgang Romey/Westley Richards example. It takes a bit to do the initial step up in recoil, but there is a strong case to be made that the 416 Rem Mag is a better "all-around" caliber than the 375 H&H. The 400 H&H will likely continue to be stillborn outside of the H&H "bespoke" fraternity. Us benighted hillbillies will have to make due with the 416 Rem Mag. Boo Hoo. | |||
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