I wanted to ask if any of your has any experience with the 12.04 bibamufu cartridge. Talk some about it...performance, recoil etc...

Also, speaking in general, what is your experience with Lazzeroni cartridges in general? Worth the price tag or not? Talk some about it...

His rifles and cartridges, I have to admit, intrigue me. On the other hand I think I would have a hard time justifying the serious cost of rifles and ammo.

I have a lazzeroni 308 warbird in a sako rifle that I like very well. It is extremely accurate & the ammo is high, usually 90-100 shipped per box. Have no plans of parting with it in the near future, It's a keeper.

Regards Mike

^^That seems to be the way to do it...that is get a rifle from another company chambered for a lazzeroni cartridge and then reload. Their rifles are $5k+ !

Well, you asking about the Bibamu, you gotta think, what do I want this round to do?
The 460 Wby has a following of sorts, but many think it's a bit more than needed, and you trade off mag capacity for velocity.
I'm not really one to talk (besides the fact I have no experience with the Lazz round) as I would so love to convert CZ Rigby to 470 Mbogo.
That there is a big, bad mutha if I ever. Mag capacity will be about the same as the Lazz, and you can push a 500g well over 2600, IIRC, which is more than most can stand in a handy rifle.
And, rifle, rebarrel, restock, and freakin' carve your name in gold on the bolt handle and you're still better off than a Lazzeroni.
Oh, and it's a CRF!

We have several Lazzeroni rifles, and like them all a lot.

In every case, the claimed performance - accuracy and velocity - of his rifles and ammo have all been met or exceeded.

I have seen a couple of postings on www.longrangehunting.com where they say some of the brass is crap because of bad neck dimensons.

Being in Austalia I would not touch one because of bring in brass.

Personally, for the bigger money I would much prefer a 30/378 Mark V done through their Custom Shop with the Kreiger cut rifle barrel and Kreiger action work. But with titanium nitride finishes etc you will be up at the Lazzeroni type money.

On behalf of a friend of mine I emailed Lazzeroni sometime ago and the cases are a few thou smaller than 416 Rigbys on the head and he said his cases could not be made from 416 Rigbys.

If you check out www.longrangehunting.com you will find virtually all the big bangers are based on either 378 brass, 416 Rigby brass, Rem Ultra brass and 338 Lapua brass. Lazzeroni based calibres are virtually non existant.

But I di liked the rifles as they use the Wby style stock and slower rifling twists such as 1 in 12 in 30. But that can also be done with the Wby/Kreiger option.

With a 1 in 12 twist and using the coated bullets Lazzeroni is using plus the 27 inch barrel a 30/378 should be a tad faster than the Warbird because I think it is a slighly larger case.

If you don't like the Wby stock you can buy the Wby/Kreiger option as a barreled action and use the McMillan stock and I think MPI will make whatever you want in shape.

HS precision guarantee 1/2" grouping and supply loads for all clibres up to 30 calibres and that includes the 30/378. You can also buy them as a barreled action if you do not like the HS precision stock.

Mike

fusino,
I have a 10.57 Meteor (the large cased .416) and 2 - 8.59 galaxies (short .338's). All are excellent shooters. Extremely well made.
The .416 has the traditional Lazzeroni stock and is easy to shoot. It does kick a bit but is easily controlled, and no, it does not have a brake.
The .338's are the short action mountain rifle. Nice light weight, easy to carry and an excellent shooter. Again, no brakes.