I figured big bore fanatics here might know more detail. I found a nice walnut stock that came out of new haven before it shut down Is the long action the same length as the late model stainless 375 h&h, or is the h&h length in winchester a different size than the standard long action?

gohip2000

They are the same overall length. The changes begin with short actions, like the WSMs. Any long action stock is the same. Difference is either in 2 piece bottom metal or 1 piece bottom metal, that is what you need to match up! There is a difference in the stocks with the bottom metal.

Michael

I did some research and it seems they went to a one piece after 2003. I'll post the pics of the stock I'm thinking about. I can't tell for sure if it's a one or two piece. It looks like there is 2 holes, but it also looks like there is a half hole for a 3rd screw. I'm not familiar with winchester stocks, so I'm not sure.


I'm waiting to hear if the stainless 375 h&H I'm buying is a one or two piece

gohip2000

It is hard to tell from the photos, but it looks like a super grade stock, most of them were made for one piece bottom metal, at least most of the last ones? All will be capable of 3 screws. The big difference in the stock is the floor plate end which is deeper on one piece than two piece, and I think a little difference in length. Did this stock come from CDNN? Looks like their boxes! If so, then they have a spacer so that a 2 piece gun works on a 1 piece stock, perfectly. Now the ones I have are for all short actions, I would suppose they have one for long actions also?

If I had to "guess", I would say you have a 1 piece bottom metal stock, with it being a later super grade stock. The big question "What is the 375?" If it is two piece get on the horn to CDNN and see if they have the spacers for Long Action Winchesters. The short action spacer works perfect, and they are only $9.95!

Michael

it's posted from theif river falls, mn on gun broker. and is a long action super grade stock

The rifle I'm buying is:
Model 70, SS Classic,
375 H&H
CRF
Black Factory stock.. Nice Gun.

Here's pictures of it, unfortionatley they guy doesn't have a bottom view of the rifle



Unfortionately I don't get that wood laminant stock shown in the pictures as it is a $1800 stock, So i was thinking about replacing the black stock with the super grade stock shown in the first post. Any other suggestions for nice synthetic stocks? I really like the look of bell & carlson stocks with the green, tan, or grey stocks with webbing design. are they any good?

gohip

Hard to tell. Call them up! I take it that is not a Winchester Wood Factory stock?

I have a 416 Remington on the range right now, stainless, wood, and it's two piece bottom metal. All of the rifles short actions that come with that cheap plastic stock are two piece bottoms.

I hear that the Bell & Carlson stocks are first class! I plan on trying one out later.

The laminated stock that is on the rifle, Serengeti??? I have one of those, it's ok, but not $1800 worth either! I think I have $800 in mine, and while it's ok, I'd rather have the $800 at Accurate Innovations which is a better stock.

Looks like a very nice rifle. I am thinking by the looks, and comparing the sights to the ones on my 416 right now, it's a 2 piece gun! I think I'd call CDNN and see if they have a spacer for long actions!

Michael

yep serengeti, they guy told me he put $1800 into the stock, but would be willing to give me the stock for my Marlin SBL. I turned that down. I've read reviews of the stocks not fitting half the time, but I've also read really good reviews. I would put about $300 into a new stock, but not much more than that at this point

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Originally posted by gohip2000:
yep serengeti, they guy told me he put $1800 into the stock, but would be willing to give me the stock for my Marlin SBL. I turned that down. I've read reviews of the stocks not fitting half the time, but I've also read really good reviews. I would put about $300 into a new stock, but not much more than that at this point

You have made a very excellent decision concerning the serengeti stock. $1800 is nuts for that. Sorry, but that's how I feel. Like I said, I have one, $800 plus in it, it's nice, it's ok, but I don't want another one. Not for that money! For my wood stocks I have been investing my $$ in Accurate Innovations, and I am a very happy camper with AI. They have the aluminum chassis the rifle action sits in, and it's excellent. I use them on my B&M series rifles and a must have on my 500 MDM. Some samples of some of mine below.

This is a bit expensive Turkish stock by AI I put on one of my 50 B&Ms after busting the EXCELLENT super grade stock that was on it. It broke my heart busting that super grade stock!




This is a couple of Myrtle Stocks I had AI do, one on top is 500 MDM and the other is 416 B&M


This is what I would call their standard grade Claro AA


This was also a standard grade Claro AA, but damn it is a nice piece! On a 500 MDM.


I won't bore you with anymore, but I am very pleased with AI, and the thing is, prices are very reasonable for what you get, and I really love the chassis that the action sits in, that absorbs all the recoil, no more busted stocks!

The most expensive AI stock I have is the Turkish on the 50 B&M. It was expensive in that $1800 range. But it has a few extras on it, and it was a AAA grade of turkish, although I really thought it should have looked better to me. But, it solves all issues with that gun. None of the rest of the stocks even come close to that price, not even the Myrtles. The standards were a bit less than what I paid for the serengeti stock. And you get the chassis, pachmeyer recoil pad, and lot's of extras! Right now they are building 4 English AA Walnuts for me and a Maple. I can't wait to get them on some of my Winchesters! 3 of the English are for 500 MDMs and one English for another 50 B&M and the Maple??? Don't know yet! I will figure it out!

Michael

gohip2000,

The stock is a Super Grade and it looks like it is inletted for the one piece bottom metal (it is hard to see). The problem is that it will have a "Sporter" barrel channel and forearm configuration. The 375 will need a larger barrel channel and would look better with the larger forearm configuration as well as the second cross bolt to prevent the stock from cracking.

Headache

If that first stock pictured will fit the stainless M70, I think it will make a beautyful gun. Very nice, and I must say even though I found the Alaskan package appealing. Looking at this rifle design, stock and caliber, much much better choice!

The action inletting is identical. That supergrade stock is inletted for the one piece floorplate. Your .375 stainless has a two piece floorplate. To get the two piece to fit there would have to be some minor inletting work done, I don't know exactly what that is but here's a link to williams firearm company, they made the floorplates for winchester for the super grades and they can tell you exactly what will need to be done to make your floorplate fit.

http://www.williamsfirearms.com/contactus.html

As someone else mentioned, the barrel channel inletting will be wrong, the super grade stock is inletted for a standard sporter barrel profile and the .375 has a heavier contour, it'll have to be opened up to fit your rifle. It should be a simple job for a stock man with the right tools to fix. I personally wouldn't try it myself because I'm not good at stuff like that and would mess it up, but a handy woodworker could probably do a good job at home. Other than that, that stock will work fine, it's not a drop-in, but it won't take much to make it work.