.800 Nitro Express in the works at H&H??

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12 November 2002, 07:08

500grains

.800 Nitro Express in the works at H&H??

Quoting Jim Carmichel:

"Until recently the most powerful cartridge for double-barreled elephant rifles was the fabled .600 Nitro Express, which delivered a thumb-sized, 900-grain slug at nearly four tons of muzzle energy. Then Holland & Holland brought forth a .700 Nitro of even greater power. I fired one of these at H&H's London test site, and the best way I can explain the experience is that one shot definitely gets you out of the mood for a fast follow-up shot-especially at over $100 per pop. Yet I'm told that several rifles in this caliber have been ordered and there's even rumor of an .800 Nitro."

http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/adventure/stories/article/0,13285,193943,00.html[/URL]

[ 11-11-2002, 22:10: Message edited by: 500grains ]

12 November 2002, 07:28

ACRecurve

Reckon they'll call it the 800 Overkill MegaMagnum Loudenboomer? Probably will weigh in the vicinity of 32 lbs loaded. [Big Grin]

[ 11-12-2002, 00:15: Message edited by: ACRecurve ]

12 November 2002, 08:31

fla3006

Anything to sell more guns. Isn't that what most of the new cartridges are about?

12 November 2002, 14:16

John Ricks

I would rather carry a 9-1/2 pound 458 Lott that I can shoot. Hell, I can't hold a 16 pound .600 up and aim, much less a .700 or .800, who knows what they weigh.

More toys for the rich and not famous.

12 November 2002, 14:48

JohnTheGreek

Finally my gun is ready! [Roll Eyes]

NOT!!

JohnTheGreek

12 November 2002, 15:37

If I could afford I would buy it [Big Grin]

Primarily I would be using it on foxes under the spotlight [Eek!]

Lastly If I bought a cz in .416 Rigby could I rebarrel to 800 nitro, would there be enough left on the bolt face [Confused]

And just to top it off, if I chambered a Marlin 1895 lever gun for the 800 nitro and had it feeding & extracting perfectly would it be ethical to hunt Dangerous game with it ? [Razz]

12 November 2002, 15:43

<KBGuns>

I can not see the need for such a gun. All that is really needed for to ultimate in DGR technology,is for Seirra to get off its ass and make a .458 MatchKing, thus turning the 45-70 Gov't in the endall killing machine!! [Roll Eyes]

Kristofer

13 November 2002, 00:12

Overkill

What is the adress to H&H website??? The adress that 500grains post dont work. What bullet weight and velocity will the .800 NE have???

13 November 2002, 00:26

<Honey Badger>

Try www.hollandandholland.com.

.800 NE? Has someone found a herd of dinosaurs? I love nitro express doubles myself, but thats just silly. Why not ask Hollands to build you a double in 105mm Howitzer or something.

13 November 2002, 00:38

Softlead

quote:
And just to top it off, if I chambered a Marlin 1895 lever gun for the 800 nitro and had it feeding & extracting perfectly would it be ethical to hunt Dangerous game with it ?

Not so, no matter what external ballistics you come up with, it wont work if the rifle has a leaver some were on it. [Frown]

13 November 2002, 01:47

mehulkamdar

Some years ago, the John Rigby company under Paul Roberts' chairmanship at the old London address collaborated with Joseph Hambrusch company to make a modern 10 bore rifle which used nitro powder called the 775 Rigby. Hambrusch also make 8, 4 and even 2 bore double rifles.

These are bound to make the 800 nitro look small! [Big Grin]

13 November 2002, 07:51

500grains

The article is called "The Danger of Elephant Hunting".

Try this link:

http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/adventure/stories/article/0,13285,193943,00.html

If that does not work, try this one then select the article:

http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/adventure/stories