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Hello! I have bought a rifle in 10,75x68. It says only "Gewehrfabrik Danzig" on the rifle. Does someone know somtthing about the history of this rifle, when it was mads and so on.. It is a very nice rifle wiht a detacheble scope and expressights. I really look forward to try it out. (the are some paperwork left before I can bring it home) Hope someone have some info about this "Danzig" rifle. | ||
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Congratulations to a fine rifle. You must put up some pictures of it, and check all the markings. Boha | |||
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There was a Prussian Arsenal in Danzig that produced Model 88 rifles and the Model 98s before WW1. I suspect your example might be a Model 88. There's a lot of information on the WWW about Danzig and Danzig Arsenal. Google's Results For Gewehrfabrik Danzig #6409-Response To Enquiry About 8mm "Danzig" Mauser Rifle # 6409 - Mauser Sporter's History 10/4/2003 Edward Miles, Hickory Tavern, S.C. Sporter - 8mm - Blue - 2132 - Receiver marked ''GEWEHRFABRIK DANZIG'' and Carries the Royal Prussian Eagle marking. The Receiver Ring measures 3.25cm in Diameter, and is 4.25 Cm long. The old rifle has a scope attached made by OIGEE of Berlin with front tip off mount and a rear post mount. The scope reticule adjustment block is inscribed ''Luxor 6X 108590 on one side, and on the other, D.R.P. No. 305004. The scope mounts feature a peep through at their base. The mounts are inscriber ''315''. The stock is of walnut wood, and features an elongated checkered oval pistol grip. The same has a cheek plate. The front of the stock features a schnable design, and also has oval panels at the receiver area for strength. The barrel length is 59.5 centimeters long from the receiver ring. The bolt is what appears to be a standard 98 model, excepting it does not have a ramp in the semicircular groove to aid in removing the Extractor. The old rifle has two set triggers with adjusting screw...and I could go on if need be. My question is...What model is it, when was it made, where can I get documentation on it, and was it a sniper rifle. It was passed to me through family who said the rifle was taken off a German Ski Patrol during WWII by a Russian friend named Victor Rockwell. Some friends have speculated that it is a commercial model 88 made before WWI and made a sport rifle by some German gunsmith in the 20's. What's the truth? Answer: Edward, from your description it's difficult to identify exactly what rifle you have. There was a Prussian State arsenal at Danzig which produced the Model 88 and the Model 1898 until 1918. The ejector on the Model 88 is a small button headed devise on the left side of the receiver, while the Model 1898 has the standard rectangular ejector that pulls out. The bolts are also different, the Model 1888 bolt does not have the famous Mauser large spring steel extractor on the right hand side. The rifle has been extensively modified by a gunsmith with double set trigger and scope mounts added. We've seen a number of other German rifles, usually Model 1888's so modified for hunting. Many found their way back to the U. S. at the end of World War II and turn up occasionally on the collector's market. World War II German sniper rifles were made from the standard Jeweler 98 rifle, not from hunting rifles. There were a number of mounting systems used. All required the attachment of permanent metal plates to the receiver. Otherwise the rifle was left in its standard military configuration. It's highly unlikely that your rifle was used as a military sniping rifle. I suspect that the story about history has been enhanced to make it sound more exciting. Marc GOOD LUCK! | |||
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Thanks, that was useful ! My gun have the extractor on the bolt and snellert triggers. Is the differece between 88 and 98 models just the extractor? Or can I see some other differences? I have two other mauser 98 and the bolt is the same. The number on the mauser is 55xx(dont remember the two last numbers). The barrel is 23", and I think it's been modified because there are some marks on the left side of the barrel. It now stands 10,75x68, but it seems like it has been rechambered? | |||
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The Danzig Arsenal made sporting rifles on military actions similar to original Oberndorf sporters during the 1920's. | |||
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I have owned 2 Danzig sporters. Both were small ring 98 Mausers with claw mounted German scopes, 8x57 octagon-round full rib barrels, thin lightweight stocks similar to Oberndorf Type B's, checkered round knob pistol grips, steel buttplates, schnabble forends. Not the finest but still very nice quality. I think you'll really enjoy the 10.75. Lots of power for moose (0.423" diameter, 347gns @ 2350fps). Here it is next to the 375 H&H: | |||
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Alf; Does that mean that it's not worth the money? I dont see the marks on the ring because there's a scopemount there. Thanks for the info! | |||
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You're in good shape if your rifle is a Model 98. There was a magazine article on the 10.75 Mauser - 10.75x68 Mauser "The 10.75 Alternative" ~ Rifle- Apr, 1991,38 More magazine articles in this index: HERRMAN'S INDEX OF NINE MAJOR GUN MAGAZINES My guess - and it's only a guess, is your example is a re-barrelled custom conversion built by a gunshop on the M98 Danzig Action. AFAIK, most Commercial Mauser Sporting Rifles were Obendorf Mauser actions but I am certainly no expert. Your seller should be able to tell you a lot more about the rifle and its origins. This 10.75x68mm ~ 28" Barrelled example sold recently for over $4600 US. Says it was made in the 1920s & sold by the owner from Kenya... FRED ROBERTS Gunshop Site GOOD LUCK! | |||
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As I recall, the Danzig GEW 98's were small ring receiever with large ring barrel. If this is correct, a 10.75x68 might be a bit much for the thin amount of metal surrounding the barrel shank. Someone correct me if I am wrong, as I don't have an example on hand to verify this. | |||
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I think Kurt is right. All Danzig sporters I have seen are small ring 98s. The 88 would definitely be light for the 10.75, a small ring 98 might be too. HVA, could you post pics? | |||
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Sorry, fla3006. The gun is in Sweden for the moment. I'm waiting for the permit to bring it over too Norway. I'll post a pic asap. I think the price is ok, It's inklude 80 rounds of Fmj and soft point bullet and complete dieset.(3parts).(inkl Swarovski scope). I'm looking forward to get a real big bore! | |||
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This is the real deal from mauser Cheers, Andr� | |||
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Andre, Can I get some pictures of the magazine on this rifle, PLEASE?!?!! that little mag looks like what I need to solve my 550 express 3down issue. thanks jeffe | |||
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Sorry Jeffe That picture is all I have. The rifle is not mine just a picture a found when I was searching for info regarding the 10,75X68. Cheers, Andr� | |||
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If I'm not mistaken, that pic is of a custom rifle made by Harald Wolf (Hatari Times). Here's 2 original Type B 10.75 Oberndorf sporters, different barrel and magazine configurations: | |||
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I have had a couple of 10.75x68s and they are an exceptional and overlooked cartridge... the 10.75x68 got a bad rap early on as the bullets for it were soft and a lot of failures occured... Today with modern powder it is easy to get 2375 FPS with a 350 gr. Barnes X bullet, Swift, GS Customs, or any 350 gr. .423 bullet..and that is a killer for sure... It occurs to me that this is the best ladies or youths rifle caliber for dangerous game on the market, and would probably be a better choice for many men who are shooting guns that generate too much recoil for them to handle..I loved the two I had but brass was a problem, but now Horneber is making brass for the 10.75...Recoil is about like a 375,or 9.3x62 it seems to me. A really nice rifle can be made up on a std. M-70 or Mauser 98....It is a winner. | |||
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