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Axel/Todd E etc want all of of us to "forgive and forget" what a lying ass he has always been on this website. He wants us to be taken as a serious shooter and firearms "authority." Unfortunately he doesn't want to stop lying. Here is his latest scam totally exposed: Step 1. quote:Step 2. quote:Step 3. quote:Step 4. Here is the answer I got back from Ed Plummer, President of AHR. quote:Now, I did not specifically ask Ed if stating they are building the 585 for ANYONE includes lying trolls...but I am assuming "anyone" means anyone...even Axel. The obvious conclusion one must draw from this series of events is simply that Axel has never ordered ANYTHING from ANYONE. Especially NOT AHR or they would be busy working on his gun as we speak. [ 01-31-2003, 04:28: Message edited by: Pecos45 ] | ||
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Pecos-45- I think everyone here knows the truth about Axel/ToddE and really not much that's worth saying or doing about it. Nobody belives a single word of any of his posts. It's a really sad situation!-Rob | |||
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After carefully considering the pros and cons of doubles, I have placed an order for this nifty 18" triple. Should be here in a year or two, and I'll post more photos of me on safari when it gets here...  Dan ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} [ 01-31-2003, 04:35: Message edited by: green 788 ] | ||
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quote:Really, Axel? ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} Well based on the email I just received TODAY from the PRESIDENT of the company:quote:I would say you should call Ed Plummer up and tell him what a dumb ass he is! Obviously he hasn't a clue what his own shop is doing!!! (Damn them old lies...they just keep tripping up the poor troll. ![[Frown]](images/icons/frown.gif){kind=icon} ) | |||
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quote:Dan, that's a hell of a lot easier to believe than Axel's lies. If they can't build it to your specs, just do like Axel and build it yourself. Keep us posted on your progress. | |||
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Axel- You just might want to reconsider buying a pre-threaded, long chambered barrel from Pac-Nor unless you plan on buying a custon neck reamer. Otherwise, it ain't gonna work! You'll also need a better Lathe than your Unimat anyway! In addition, the mods needed for the action to work are way beyond what someone who has never done any gunsmithing can do at home with a Dremel tool! Right?When you were ToddE you read all the stuff about my gun and PC'c on the NYATI remember? Please post some pictures as your project progresses.-Rob ![[Razz]](images/icons/tongue.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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Aww, Come on guys... this is Axhole.. the man that rechambered a 45/70 to a 45/120 with a hand reamer... he can do it would a firestorm cordless drill and some bacon grease for lube. Just use a 7/8" spade bit, Axhole, heat treat it by getting it red hot and plunge it into kerosen... which WILL heattreat, btw... jeffe | |||
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Jeffe - I have a feeling Axel/Todd E was telling us the truth when he said he was good at HAND REAMING | |||
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quote:Axel - You better look again at the AHR website. There is NO such thing as an "electronic order form." And you can bet your ass they aren't going to scratch their ass building a gun for anyone till they have the money.Are you so totally stupid that you think you can just send a company an email and tell them to "build me this rifle." I don't think it works that way even for such a "long time and respected member of AR" as yourself [ 01-31-2003, 07:00: Message edited by: Pecos45 ] | |||
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Robgunbuilder, You stated in your posts on the 585 Nyati that you used a special reamer with a tight neck! You did this because you were concerned about the small shoulder of the Nyati. You later stated that due to the uneven thickness of the Bertram brass' neck you had problems chambering loaded rounds in your rifle with the TIGHT neck. What does this have to do with prefitted PacNor barrels? I have spoken with them and they use a standard reamer. Worse case scenario is that I would have to neck turn my cases. Not too big of a deal, since I will only load 100. There is another explanation for your most recent comments, isn't there. You DID NOT ream any chamber yourself, did you? You purchased a prefitted PacNor barrel and had the chambering issues with the PacNor barrel! This makes a great deal of sense since your lathe most likely will not cut the metric thread pitch of a CZ barrel shank! I suspect you also purchase your Great American gunstocks completely inletted, too. I am not sure which scenario is true, Robert. You continually contradict yourself. Frankly, I do not care. I am extremely confident that I can figure out the feeding for the 585, this isn't rocket science! Pecos, AHR has an order form that you fill out and send to them electronically. You then call them or they call you so that monies can be exchanged. AHR did not tell me that they would not take my money in exchange for a 585 AHR. What they told me is that it was not ready, yet! This means I would have to wait a LONG time to get my rifle. So I took heed of 500grains words and decided to build my own. DUH! Can you understand this, or is this still over your head? Axel [ 01-31-2003, 07:35: Message edited by: Axel ] | ||
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I guess it's still over my head. Can you direct me to the order form on their website? If they have one, it is well hidden. And can you explain why the President of AHR contradicts your story? | |||
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Pecos follow the link below: AHR Order Form As you can see there is an order form you email to them. Robert, I find it interesting that PC's rifle has no problems feeding and ejecting Bertram brass! Why do you suppose this is? Axel [ 01-31-2003, 18:20: Message edited by: Axel ] | ||
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That isn't an "electronic order form." It just tells you how you can pay them and how they will ship a gun. Like I said, they don't pick up a metal filing until they see your money. | |||
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Pecos, I don't get it! There was an order form there last week! I used it. Regardless, I am going to do it all myself now. Robert Garnick, did you use a prefitted PacNor barrel, or did you use a "special" reamer as your old posts stated! I would like to know if the PacNor chambers are too tight. I would also like to understand HOW you know the PacNor chambers are too tight. Thanks, Axel | ||
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I think I get it. | |||
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Pecos, I am glad that you finally get it! Now perhaps you will leave me alone. Axel | ||
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Pecos, It may be time to move on to routing out different Axholes as you have this one fully exposed. And your talents could be used on others here I suspect. | |||
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Ignore mode on. | ||
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It's not nice to taunt the mentally ill. | |||
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Having been abused by such trolls here, it's nice when they are pointed out. Thanks for a public service, Pecos. DR S | |||
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be seious building a 585 Nyati need more work than to simply screw a pre fit barrel from PAC NOR ChrisDITCHER make good bareel but doesn t make mircle , built a 585 NEED heavy modification on reciver and mag box need to add a rcoil lug under the barrel ( as on most real big caliber rifle ) to allow to not smash the stock with only the original receiver lug need to square receiver face and bolt ( will be open to case head ) that make lot of work jut for barreled action without sight and brake STOPTO DREAM and purcahse a good lathe by this way you can start your project by building something lighter first as a 270 WIN after seceral year of practice you can pehaps think to built a real 585 . a 5000 $ rifle is not only a prefit barrel screw on rifle !!!!, check the picture ( rea picture ) of the 600 project . godd shooting DANTEC | |||
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DANTEC, I do not see the EXTREME difficulty you are thinking exists with this conversion. According to my calculations the M70 is fine for the 585 Nyati, AS LONG AS, YOU DO NOT EXCEED THE 577 NE LOADING. What this means it that a M70 action is fine if you only want to get 2100 fps with a 750 grain pill. This is afterall, all the ballistic performance I need! The feeding issues are relatively simple to address. Squaring off of the action requires only a purpose built mandrel and a lathe. Lapping the lugs is agains a simple exercise utilizing a purpose built jig, lapping compound, and some elbow grease. Setting up the barrel is simple exercise in the use of depth micrometers, parting, and possibly threading. Installing a barrel recoil lug, no brainer, machine shallow groove and solder lug in place. The groove will provide a shoulder for the lug to bear against. This is all very basic machining and I see no BIG problem. In my opinion the work required does in no way justify a $5000 price tag. There is seriously only about 20 man hours involved in the metal work. To meet that estimate does not require killing yourself either! Having said that, I am seriously contemplating a 375 or even a 358 instead. These are more PRACTICAL chamberings than a 585. The machine work required would be almost as significant, however. Axel | ||
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Don't worry about it DANTEC. The boy ain't gonna build nothing but a pack of lies and he won't need a lathe for that. He's very experienced at it. | |||
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