Of the commercially available ammo for the .375, which bullet weight, 270 gr. or 300 gr. is better? My personally felling is that the bigger slightly slower bullet would be best; however what is your experience in the field? Thanks to all in advance.
Posts: 153 | Location: Hilo, Hawaii | Registered: 07 July 2004
I personally prefer bigger/slower. But I guess it depends a bit on what you're hunting, and if you are hunting for meat or not. We have found that bigger/slower has given us better results when it comes to meat damage on our moose than with faster/lighter bullets (and caliburs). This is why I will be trying 350gr. Rhino bullets this season. A friend of mine will be trying the 380gr. It will be interesting to see the results!
Erik D.
Posts: 2662 | Location: Oslo, in the naive land of socialist nepotism and corruption... | Registered: 10 May 2002
If you're hunting plains game, I can vote for the 260 gr accubonds. We had excellent results in Namibia, all the bullets we recovered stayed together, good expansion, and weight retention of 55 to 75%. Most bullets exited. Accuracy was teriffic. Not having shot DG, I'll leave that recommendation to the experienced. Bob
If you're only going to have one bullet weight for the .375 H&H for world-wide use, and all manner of big game, including the biggest and most dangerous, a set of good 300 gr. loads (solid & soft point) is the way to go.
Even so, I really like the classic 270 gr. weight, and I especially like the Winchester 270 gr. Fail-Safe bullet, which I've used for a fair amount of hunting, including grizzly and black bear, plus elk. This bullet penetrates better than the more conventional 300 gr. bullets, always stays together, yet opens up well. You can load it to 2700 fps. or better, so it shoots about as flat as the 180 gr. load at the same velocity out of the .30-06. Recoil is less than with 300 gr. bullets as well. For an all-purpose African plainsgame or North American load, this one is very tough to beat.
I'd like to see Nosler drop their 260 gr. .375 Partition bullet and go back to the 270 gr. weight....
How about if you plan to use your .375 stateside for deer, bear, elk? Would you stay with the 300gr and learn it extensively for better practice for the African game?
I just really like carrying my .375 as much as possible.
Would you still shy from the 260s for that purpose?
Your experience is appreciated.
Posts: 57 | Location: North Georgia Mtns | Registered: 31 December 2003
No, I wouldn't necessarily shy away from the 260 gr. Nosler for deer, elk and most other N. American animals if I had a rifle that shot it well, but I do think that the 270 gr. weight is better, with better sectional density, etc. Besides the Fail-Safe, you can get 270 gr. Swift A-Frames and 270 gr. Hornady Inter-Locts.
I like the 270 gr. weight because it shoots a little flatter and kicks a little less than the 300 gr., but still carries a lot of mass and packs a heck of a punch. For example, I shot completely through a large silvertip mountain grizzly with the 270 gr. Fail-Safe. I shot him in the chest just below the chin, and the bullet went clear through and exited at the tail. We found one fragment (a petal) along the spine -- that's all.
I'd rather save the 300 gr. stuff for all-around African use (especially with buffalo on the menu) and possibly for brown bear use.
I have been loading the 375 H&H recently with some fair groups and some terrible groups. The 260gr Nosler Accubonds with RL15 would group to 1 7/8 inch and thats with 69, 70, 71 & 72 gr. I loaded some more and will test them tomorrow with a charge of 67 to 71 gr, hopfully will get a 1" group. I also tried Hornady 225 gr with IMR4064 (69 to 73gr) but terrible results 5 - 6 inch groups. I wanted a light load, but have not found a accurate one yet. I loaded some Hornady 225 with RL15 (same Wt as the Nos260) and will try tomorrow. If you have a good accurate load with a light bullet I would like to know. The Barnes 210 goupe to 2".
Posts: 45 | Location: Wisconsin, USA | Registered: 26 December 2003
Quote: 260gr Nosler Accubonds with RL15 would group to 1 7/8 inch I also tried Hornady 225 gr with IMR4064 (69 to 73gr) but terrible results 5 - 6 inch groups.
This also has been my experience with .375. It like the heavier bullets for accuracy, and generally likes them hot (Mod 70). The twist is generally a bit fast for the real short bullets so they 'overstabilize.' Because of the large case capacity, you can't load them very far down without incurring pressure problems. If you want to shoot the 185-210 grain bullets, you might need another rifle say a .375 Win, or a .35 non-mag.
Posts: 262 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 09 July 2004
I've had very good luck with RL 15 (70 gr? if I remember right) and 260 Accubond. 3 shots into about .75 in. Also had very good experience with lighter loads and 220 gr Hornady and 260 AB's and xmp5744 powder. Accurate Arms has info on their web site and put out a free booklet with loads. It's been a great powder for reduced loads and lighter bullets. I've had good luck in both a Whitworth 375 and a Ruger #1. Bob
I'm new to the .375 H&H also personally but am very impressed with it and the Ruger M77 Magnum in every way.
For all my guns I always use the "one gun, one load" philosophy. Develope whatever load/bullet you think will suit you best and stick with it for ALL purposes. In this way you'll learn the rifle far better than having several loads and weights to try and master or re-sight the rifle for, etc. You'll never truly master it with multiple loadings of different trajectories, etc.
For me the choice is hands-down, the 300gr bullet...
Posts: 863 | Location: Mtns of the Desert Southwest, USA | Registered: 26 February 2004
RupertBear, I hear you from everything I have read the 375 seems to better with the heaver bullets. For my hunt next fall in Alaska I�m looking for a commercially available round that will not cost me big bucks to shoot as I am new to my 375. I am leaning toward the 300 gr. However most of the lower cost ammo is loaded with the 270 gr.
AD, It seems to me your are saying 270 gr. for North America for all but brown bear, and 300 gr. for Africa. Am I hearing you right?
In time I want to start loading my own so I can get good quality ammo and a lower price, as well as try out the 350gr. � If Money were water.
Posts: 153 | Location: Hilo, Hawaii | Registered: 07 July 2004
458RugerNo1, Along that same line, I have a good friend who builds custom rifles out in East Texas. He is of the belief that you not only have one round but you even brake in the barrel with the bullet weight you want to hunt with. I have no Idea if a barrel is that finicky or not, do you?
Posts: 153 | Location: Hilo, Hawaii | Registered: 07 July 2004
I did one safari in Zimbabwe for plainsgame (steenbok thru eland) where I took only a .375 H&H and ammunition loaded with 300 gr. Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. I had excellent results, but If I were doing the same hunt and taking the same rifle today, I'd take ammo loaded with 270 gr. Swift A-Frames. I'd only take 300 gr. ammunition again if I was on a general-bag hunt that included buffalo and/or lion.
Even so, I know lots of .375 H&H shooters who simply stick with 300 gr. loads for everything, and some of these guys use the .375 H&H exclusively for hunting all manner of big game world-wide.