The Accurate Reloading Forums
416 and 375 PGW

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4711043/m/58110777

07 February 2003, 01:04
Karl
416 and 375 PGW
Sorry if you thought I was providing some interesting information on these cases, but that's what I'm after myself [Big Grin]

Has anyone taken the plunge with one of these rockets yet or have any updates?

Karl.
07 February 2003, 12:07
416SW
Karl what is a 416 PGW?
07 February 2003, 12:10
BER007
Karl,

What is a 375 PGW?
07 February 2003, 12:20
Nitroman
Prarie Gun Works cartridges based on necked down .505 Gibbs brass.
07 February 2003, 15:21
PC
.416,

this is pretty well what you already have I think mate.
07 February 2003, 16:49
Karl
As roger said they are based on the 505 gibbs case.I was going to try designing a long range bigbore off my own 585 case but this saves me the trouble [Smile]

I heard the 416 gets over 3000fps with 400 grain bullets. A bit of calculator acrobatics suggests over 3200fps with the 300 grain bullet from the 375.

Ah well the search continues.

P.S what cartridge do you own 416?
07 February 2003, 18:49
Nitroman
Karl,

If you really want to wet your pants you could build a .375 or .416 off the BMG case. Can you get those cases in OZ?
07 February 2003, 19:35
Karl
Yep and the 50BMg is still legal in some states here too.I found a 375-50 for sale recently but
I'm too lazy to take on that level of monster. [Smile] I'll stick to the "light enough to be carried all day, normal reloading gear etc." schtick for this one.
08 February 2003, 00:31
<Per577>
Hey Karl !!
Have you beeing able to exceed 2600 fps with your .585 yet !!
Could you show me the case,,and the rifle ?
When will we see this or other cartridges on the board ?
08 February 2003, 16:48
CampX
Check out Prairie Gun Works website....the 375 and 416 PGW is their answer to the 408 Chey-Tac, which the US army is currently testing as a sniper round. 440 grain bullet at 2800fps? Something like that. Sounds like fun, but the dollar price of a PGW is pretty wicked....I guess you pay for quality.

www.prairiegunworks.com
09 February 2003, 06:56
<JOHAN>
Gentlemen

Have any of of thought about how it will be shooting one of these monsters [Eek!]

I think that they shall build a Blaser r-93 in these calibers. It wil be the first gun to orbit the moon, just think how the recoil would be in a light gun [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

/ JOHAN
09 February 2003, 07:35
Overkill
Does PRAIRIE GUN WORKS make a custom .700 BMG IMPROVED??? What price to expect???
10 February 2003, 16:02
416SW
PC I think you might be right.

Karl
If the 416PGW is based on the 505Gibbs then it sounds like my 416sw I guess maybe they were first? I picked mine up early last year (feb?) but I had placed order and paid deposit Jan 2001.
Mine is a 505Gibbs improved necked down to 416 and the neck shortened to 76mm (about 2mm I think) the neck shortening was done to allow crimping in the cannelure of a Woodleigh 410grn and still fit in the mag of the Bauska action, mine is about 98mm long. My gunsmith still has my reamer, I think he also still has a Bauska action in the white for sale. One word of advise though don't use Bertram brass see topic for my tale of woe.
http://www.serveroptions.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=002727
With the Bertram brass I have only been able to get 2810fps with the Woodleigh solids, still to finish load work up with the sp, but at the moment I'm 4 grains more powder with the sp.
I have ordered some Horneber brass through/with 500 Nitro and hopefully will get more vel with it.
11 February 2003, 09:25
416SW


[ 02-10-2003, 12:57: Message edited by: 416SW ]