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posted 23 December 2003 08:14
We currently produce a M70 Style Action and Rifles, we have recently added a survey page to our website to allow customers and shooting enthusiasts the chance to provide us with feedback on our current products and future product considerations. One of the surveys is regarding a Magnum Mauser Action we are considering for production. If you have a moment please take the time to visit www.rifleactions.com and click on the Customer Feedback Survey Link and let us know your opinions. Thank you in advance for your time.
 
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posted 23 December 2003 17:08Hide Post
Sir,
Your website is not the best. Please have it optimized for all browsers
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posted 23 December 2003 18:06Hide Post
What Jeffe said, I can't get any of the links to work except the opening page. Hey Jeffe, did you get my PM? - Dan
 
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posted 23 December 2003 18:35Hide Post
Jeffe & Dan,
Obviously I am not a web designer, however I made an attempt to optimize for all browsers. If you have a moment please try again and let me know. Thanks for your time.

Karl
 
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posted 23 December 2003 23:37Hide Post
Hi Karl

Your drop down menus at the left do nothing in Netscape, so your site is unusable.

If you are using one of Microsoft's web creation programs, you can usually find an item to check that is called something like "make Netscape compatible". You will have to look long and hard however, because the bastards at Microsoft have hidden it well in order to try to force more users to downgrade to Microsoft Internet Explorer. :-(

I'm also a webmaster too, and I make sure my pages read in browsers OTHER than Microsoft Internet Exploder... :-)

jpb

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Jeffe & Dan,
Obviously I am not a web designer, however I made an attempt to optimize for all browsers. If you have a moment please try again and let me know. Thanks for your time.

Karl


 
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posted 24 December 2003 01:05Hide Post
Hi again Karl

I should have mentioned that there is a very real benefit for you to make your site reachable by all browsers and not just Internet Explorer.

Yahoo is one of the most-used search engines on the net. It will NOT include your page unless it is compatible with both Internet Explore and Netscape.

Ignore Netscape and not only will you piss off some users directly (they may also assume your actions are sloppily made like your web page!), but many folks won't even FIND your web page because it isn't included in Yahoo. (note that Yahoo doesn't verify that your site is perfectly compatible, so it might include it if your first page comes up OK...)

jpb (writer of boring but accessible web pages)
 
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posted 24 December 2003 02:26Hide Post
Karl,
What are you writing your website in? I use netscape, IE, and opera (usually opera)for webbrowsing, and I think you site is missing it's impact for not being accessable enough

jeffe
 
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posted 24 December 2003 03:05Hide Post
Karl,

I for one can read your website just fine. A question, you state that your bolts are through hardened, then later you state that the bolts and actions are hardened to Rc 45. Could you tell me what material you are using for the bolt and action? Question #2, what is the barrel shank thread for the N4 and N5?

Thanks,
Scott
 
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posted 24 December 2003 04:22Hide Post
Hopefully your actions will be competitively priced. The CZ's, while maybe not in the same league, are fairly inexpensive and quite serviceable to most people. And with a little gunsmithing, they can be improved and made pretty nice. And the Vektor offers just about every feature one could want in a custom magnum Mauser, for about $1700 before the dollar weakened against the Rand. And of course you'll have the upcoming Montana Professional to contend with, probably at a price closer to the CZ.
 
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posted 24 December 2003 04:41Hide Post
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Karl,...A question, you state that your bolts are through hardened, then later you state that the bolts and actions are hardened to Rc 45. Could you tell me what material you are using for the bolt and action? Question #2, what is the barrel shank thread for the N4 and N5?thanks,
Scott




I agree... There is some confusion to me as to wheather the action is case hardend and through hardend or just through hardened. Also stating the material would be helpfull. Many buyers are interested in what it is made out of.
 
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posted 24 December 2003 06:27Hide Post
The receivers and bolts are hardened using a process called Aus-tempering. It is a salt solution heat treating to minimize deflection. The material is 4140, the receiver ID is honed prior to heat treating and then polished the bolt is heat treated then OD ground. This process is not case hardening it is hardened throughout.
 
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posted 24 December 2003 06:30Hide Post
Answering the question regarding barrel shank dia for N4 and N5. N4 can be either 1" x 16 or 1.0625" x 16, the N5 is 1.125" x 16.
 
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posted 24 December 2003 06:34Hide Post
I am working with someone this morning to try and get the website issue straightened out. As soon as I do I will let you know. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Karl
 
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posted 24 December 2003 06:55Hide Post
Hi Karl



No problem -- nice to see that you take the problem seriously and are trying to fix it!



Many so-called "webmasters" only know how to use the web creation tools made by Microsoft (which produce web pages which are very unfriendly to other (non-Microsoft!) browsers -- surprise!).



Any company charging you to write your webpage should make the darn thing compatible with every browser so you will get your largest audience! (and this isn't any more work -- you just have to know more about what you are doing!).



Microsoft says that their tools produce "industry standards" but only if you define "industry standards" to be that which is produced by Microsoft!



jpb



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I am working with someone this morning to try and get the website issue straightened out. As soon as I do I will let you know. Sorry for the inconvenience.



Karl


 
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posted 24 December 2003 09:59Hide Post
Karl,
Several years ago there was a guy on this board who was going to make these actions and had quite a lot of interest from many on this site. He died of cancer prior to getting into production. I know a lot of people wanted them, even us lefties. I am sure if you price them right, we will keep you busy !
 
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posted 24 December 2003 10:12
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Hopefully your actions will be competitively priced. The CZ's, while maybe not in the same league, are fairly inexpensive and quite serviceable to most people. And with a little gunsmithing, they can be improved and made pretty nice. And the Vektor offers just about every feature one could want in a custom magnum Mauser, for about $1700 before the dollar weakened against the Rand. And of course you'll have the upcoming Montana Professional to contend with, probably at a price closer to the CZ.




What more is there to add. Make them in goofy and right hand and everyone will be happy. I would prefer a pure mauser action, just like the Vektor or Gol-matic ation. I think the mauser military style trigger is fine for a DG rifle.

/ JOHAN
 
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posted 24 December 2003 11:37Hide Post
Thank you for the information on the material and the thread sizes.

The prices on the webiste range from $1950 for round bridges to $2350 for square bridge.

Scott
 
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posted 24 December 2003 11:58Hide Post
What is the bolt body diameter?
 
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posted 24 December 2003 12:12Hide Post
The bolt diameter for the Magnum Mauser we are considering .750", which is currently available on our N5 Action as an option. Based on the feedback I have been getting, it sounds like we should break with tradition and have a base price for left handed actions and charge a premium for right handed actions, what do you think? .
As for the website, I am sorry we were not able to fix the Netscape issue today and now the tekie is out until nextweek. I will let you know as soon as we get that corrected.

Karl
 
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I believe the problems with our website have been corrected. If you have trouble please let me know. Thank you for your patience.

Karl
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posted 06 January 2004 21:28Hide Post
Hi Karl

Yes, it now works OK with all 3 of the browsers I tested (Netscape, Internet Explorer and Avant -- all the latest versions.

Nice looking actions.

I'd suggest that you post some additional info on the website (which may save you from sending the same info repeatedly to customers):

1. Add a column to the table where you currently give the magazine length and give the potential customer the weight of the actions.

2. Add (or perhaps make more prominent if this info is already there) some information on what scope rings fit the dovetails in the receiver. I would prefer that you cut them for Talley rings myself...

3. Add some info about the inletting: will the action drop into to Win M70 bedding? If not, is it undersized or oversized (so many stocks are available for the M70 that some would be more interested if your metal was a bit bigger and could thus be used in an a M70 stock with some additional inletting).

Cheers,

jpb

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I believe the problems with our website have been corrected. If you have trouble please let me know. Thank you for your patience.

Karl
karl@rifleactions.com


 
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posted 07 January 2004 01:03Hide Post
The site works fine with a Mac using Safari.
 
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Works great, netscape, Opera, IE, and AOl

thanks and MUCH better looking site
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posted 07 January 2004 04:43Hide Post
Thanks for all your feedback guys.

jpb,
Thanks for the feedback on the information we should include, we will work to get it up there as soon as possible. If anyone else has input on information we should include please let us know.


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posted 07 January 2004 06:21Hide Post
When will some of the N5's (.750) be available in the U.S. for a look?
 
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posted 07 January 2004 10:24Hide Post
Your action looks interesting. I see no mention of magazine capacity. One of the advantages about the Pre-64 M70 is a properly dimensioned magazine box that allows four cartridges without the rifle looking pregnent. In this regard, manufacturers today have "unlearned" a key piece of small arms technology going back to the days of Paul Mauser.
 
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posted 07 January 2004 10:37Hide Post
500grains,
Our actions and rifles are manufactured in the United States. As for the N-5 with .750 dia bolt. We just started offering it last month based upon feedback we recieived from potential customers, so one will be available to see as soon as someone actually orders it.

dSmith.45,
Magazine capacity for all cartridges except a few of the large bores is 4+1.

karl
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posted 07 January 2004 10:41Hide Post
Karl,

Are those actions based on the Peter Noreen actions?

Mike
 
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posted 07 January 2004 10:45Hide Post
Yes,
We purchased the design, tooling and rights from Peter about 18 months ago.


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posted 07 January 2004 11:13Hide Post
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500grains,
Our actions and rifles are manufactured in the United States. As for the N-5 with .750 dia bolt. We just started offering it last month based upon feedback we recieived from potential customers, so one will be available to see as soon as someone actually orders it.

dSmith.45,
Magazine capacity for all cartridges except a few of the large bores is 4+1.

karl
karl@rifleactions.com





I was hoping you might have a sample N-5 (.750) at SCI in Reno or at the Shot Show in Las Vegas. Any chance of that?

Also, for the N-5, I suggest that the bolt should be Obendorf style (straight drop) because in the big bores, a swept bolt will often smack one's knuckles. In a blaster like the 505 gibbs, it can actually make a guy drop the rifle, hence a straight drop bolt handle.

Just a suggestion to be considered...
 
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I was hoping you might have a sample N-5 (.750) at SCI in Reno or at the Shot Show in Las Vegas. Any chance of that?

Also, for the N-5, I suggest that the bolt should be Obendorf style (straight drop) because in the big bores, a swept bolt will often smack one's knuckles. In a blaster like the 505 gibbs, it can actually make a guy drop the rifle, hence a straight drop bolt handle.

Just a suggestion to be considered...





Unfortunately we are not going to be able to attend either this year, we tried to work it out but there is just no way around some other things on the schedule. As for the bolt handle, the picture on our website is somewhat of an anomoly. We make actions with both swept and straight handles, in the smaller sizes the straight handle is an option. The N-4 and N-5 the straight handle is standard and the swept is an option. The one in the photo is an N-5 with an optional swept handle.

Thanks for the feedback,

karl
karl@rifleactions.com
 
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posted 09 January 2004 11:35Hide Post
I just wanted to thank everyone for all the good feedback. It sounds like there is enough interest in the Magnum Mauser Actions for us to go ahead and start making some. We probably won't advertise them until we get tooled up for production, but if anyone here is interested, we might be able to make a deal on the first few.


Karl
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www.rifleactions.com
 
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