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Hi All. I have the oppurtunity of buying the above rifle on a P14 action in very nice condition. I have heard some reports that they are are actually low quality rifles and should be avoided. I would appreciate any and all thoughts. Be brutal. Thank you Ride hard, shoot straight and speak the truth. | ||
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I presume this action still has the "dog ears"? I own two of these rifles. If I were going to start a 404 project, I'd find a Montana Rifle Co. long action and use that as the basis of your project. By the time you have a smith do all the work to make the action ready for the rest of the rifle, you'll be money ahead getting an action ready to go or even better a CZ in 404. Just my opines here! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Is this the rifle you are talking about? http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100298946 I have no knowledge of that rifle, but there is a 404 on Ralf Martini's website for sale for a little bit less that I would consider before that C&H. (Do a "ctrl+f" and put "404" in. It's towards the bottom). http://www.martiniandhagngunma...m/forsale_rifles.htm ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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Ahh, I see! A finished rifle! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Its not that particular rifle but very similar. Ride hard, shoot straight and speak the truth. | |||
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I used a friends wayyyyy back, when I lived in South Africa for awhile. It looked like the one in the picture, and had been converted to cock on opening. It was a simple, but rugged reliable rifle. I grew very fond of it. | |||
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Champlin Arms has a Westley Richards 404 for sale and Wayne Jacobson at AHR has one of his DGRs in 404 for sale as well. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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Coggi's are considered to be at the bottom of the food chain of British rifles.....just good working rifles, nothing fancy. 404 Jeff is an excellent round....if you like the rifle and it is not priced way out of range, bbl in good shape, might be a good shooter....sure would be cheaper and quicker than a Custom. Cheers, 470EDDY | |||
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Cogswell and Harrison built both working guns as well as very high end ones. They were well liked in India and still are by surviving old-timers. Building and "regulating" low priced guns was something that all of the Brits did, and they were no exception. If the rifle in question is in good shape, it should work as well as anything with a fancier name. Mehul Kamdar "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."-- Patrick Henry | |||
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I had a C&H in .375 and it was well built and very accurate. Good no nonsense rifle. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Coggies are great no nonsense working rifles. I would have to think even the low end rifles made by the Brits would be better than an out of the box Winchester or TC! Plus it has those classic English lines... Even on your first safari you would look like a grizzled pro. On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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I had one- soon sold it. It fed fine but you had to be very careful when loading otherwise all the rounds in the mag popped out the top- wasn't possible to do an 'eyes on target' reload- you had to look at what you were doing. Compared to my H&H .404 the C&H was much more pleasant to shoot- but ultimately got rid of both - and never actually shot anything more savage than an IPSC target with either. The H&H was built on a standard F.N. post war comercial Mauser action- to get .404 rounds into the mag you had to 'hook them in' under the rear bridge of the action and there was a cutout in the front reciever ring so you could eject a loaded cartridge- a heck of alot of effort and gunsmithing had gone into making an action that is really too small take a .404 - it made for a wonderfully light (7lb) and compact rifle and I could do an 'eyes off' reload with a bit of practice... | |||
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