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For the gun powder of choice for the 375 Ruger, I suggest RELOADER 15 for most all applications. And I have to give honorable mention to VARGET for the 375 Ruger with the Nosler 260 AB loaded down to Max less 10% levels. See Hodgdon's web page or loading manual for data. This load is very accurate, easy on recoil, and very deadly. E Pluribus Unum - where out of many, we will become one. | |||
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I used the 300 GK in 375 H&H for moose in the nineties and they worked great. I dont know if the changed them since, but the Sierra manual of that time claimed it was the hardest bullet in the GK line. They both expanded and penetrated very well on moose. The bonus is how accurate they are. A frend of mine borrowed the gun and shot a competition with it just for fun. He won against all the 6,5x55 and 308s. | |||
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Sometimes I think we fall victim to big add campaigns, in this case the perfect mushroom, the famous tood stools..That perfect mushrooming can effect penetration to one degree or another and sometimes if they don't get proper resistence they fail to work, sometimes they blow off all the petals,and that's not uncommon, all sorts of negitive things can happen..Sometimes when they fail they work to perfections.. A bullet that is a little softer that expands like hell and makes it to the off side skin is the ultimate quick killer, as is the explosive bullet under good conditions..Sometimes a solid will kill like a varmint bullet.. Bottom line is its a crap shoot either way,and yesteryear it was real common.. fortunately todays bullet makers are the all time best in the world by a long shot..Its seldom that we have bullet failure these days, and making a decision what a bullet did when the animal is lost is usually a bad shot and a world of denial..I know of an instance wherein a well know monolithic went in an elk turned around and came out the same side came back to the shooter and hit a tree next to said shooter..It was a killing shot btw..I know this for a fact, He had witnesses and photographic proof. I had more than a few failures with Barnes X early on, lack of expansion in each case, I didn't use them for quite some time, but lately Im renewing my thinking on those beautifu TTSX BT bullets and intend to use them this coming year on elk Whitetail and Mule deer.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I want the CSI show guys to explain that one!!!! | |||
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I have heard such stories with hemispheric-round-nose solids. Perhaps the said instance was where a solid was shot (by accident/by intention?) and did the squirrelly flip-around. Or perhaps the petals blew in such a way that the said-slug patterned like an errant round-nose, maybe getting its rear clipped by a bone but for the penalty had to do the "down" over, back at the tree that started the play. (Hey, this may be Amer. football tongue-in-cheeck but the explanation is serious. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Back to the thread... I saw 300 gn Sierra Game Kings come apart in Africa in the 80's. No I wouldn't recommend them when you could choose something like a 250 grain TTSX, or the new 270 gn LRX, or of any of the GSC's, 200gn, 250gn, 265gn. The monolithics will fly flatter and will penetrate equally or deeper than the Sierra. For powder in the 375 Ruger, I would suggest the new IMR4166 as more temperature stable than R-15. However, for 270 grain bullets and heavier I would use either R-16 or R-17. Here is a comfortable load with R-17 and the 250gnTTSX. One could do a lot of elk hunting with it, though you could push it faster. 100 yard target/3 shots. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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My experience with Sierra's much the same as Saeed. In the late 70's with the UN embargo on the RSA in full effect we had to make do with what we could get. US made bullets came in to the country via Europe and so too Sierra bullets. Now as to the subject of bullets doing a 90 deg turn in direction of travelling in a living target or coming straight back when fired into a living animal....... ??????? Please explain this to me as a physical event..... think about the statement for a second. A projectile doing a ricochet in a living target ? I can understand rigid body collisions where the target is something like steel or even stone....... but a living breathing composite visco elastic, elastic, elastic, elastic plastic behaviour. I'm not so sure | |||
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Im not sure as to the whys and wherefores of a bullet doing a turn around, but I know the folks involved as decent honest good ole boys, and saw the photographs of the elk, with intrance of caliber size and a 2.5 to 3" exit right nest to it and the tree and the bullet cut out of it, wood and blood on the bullet etc..pretty good investigative skills tells me it happened, that's all I know, don't care just just posted it out of interest..Ive seen and heard of stranger things I guess. But on the original subject, I would without a bit of doubt use the 300 gr. Sierra on soft skinned animals like deer, elk, Moose and even on a Brown Bear in a .375 if I took a notion, so far from what Ive seen it is as good as any other bullet out there..but if one feels more secure with a Accubond then have at it, the Accubond is my all time favorite bullet these days for such animmals as elk and Moose..That doesn't mean its the only bullet.. BTW, I did a series of test with a couple of calibers and bent soft point noses, even the severely bent ones had absolutly no effect on accuracy as far as I could tell both loaded the same and shot for accuracy 5 shot groups, especially for hunting accuracy..maybe at a benchrest competition it would worry me, don't know. I suppose under scientific test with machine rests etc. etc. you might come up with some difference, don't know, don't care, were supposed to be talking hunting results in the field where there is no difference. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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