Saeed,
I believe you said once you only use scopes on you rifles. Have you ever had this to be a hindrance on one of your DGR's in thick brush & close? I am going to have a .458 Lott built and was wondering if I really need to have iron sights put on it. I was wondering if anyone in this forum has any direct experience with the 1.75 X 6 Leupold on a DGR.

Thank You,
WyoJoe

WyoJo,
I don't presume to answer for Saeed, I'll leave that to him.

But, I do have an opinion on the iron sights question on ANY rifle, and especially on a DGR for use in Africa, or Alaska's Brown bear country. I will not have a big bore hunting rifle without a "QUALITY" set of iron sights. I also want scopes on my rifles, all except my double rifles.

Here is my reasoning for this opinion! I fit all my bolt rifles with scopes mounted in Quick detachable rings, and bases. This has a two fold reasoning. #1 by haveing the QD rings and bases a spare scope can be sighted in, and taken with you on Safari, in case something happens to your scope.#2 This is in addition to the fact that the scope may be broken, while you are in one place, and your spare scope is in another. If this happens and you don't have back up iron sights, and you have the trophy of a life time in front of you, WeLLLLLLllll I guess you get the idea! If you are going to spend upwards of $20K on the hunt of a lifetime, and you suddenly you are left with a pipe & a chunk of wood, with no way to dirrect it's bullets, that $20K was just wasted.

As I sit here writeing this post, I'm looking at shelves holding 21 scopes that are not mounted on rifles, but if I need one of them in Africa, and they are on these shelves, I can't get them.

Now, to dimenstrate where this fixation comes from, with me! About 40 years ago, I was hunting in New Mexico. My rifle was zeroed dead on at 200 yds, and would drive tacks at 200 yds. I had thought about takeing the iron sights off the barrel before I left home,because I didn't like the way they looked, but didn't have any filler screws, so left them on. While I was working my way around a drainage, to get close to very large muledeer, I got overbalanced, with my rifle in my "OVER THE CANYON" hand, and the choice had to be made whether to drop the rifle, or go over the side with it. I guess you know which way I went. When I got down the 100 foot rock slide, the scope was looking down at the rear sight, and useless for shooting. I was lucky,the rifle wasn't hurt that bad, just scratched. As the scope was mounted in Weaver rings, and a coin was all it took to remove it, to my back pack. If I had removed the irons before I left home, that big deer would not be on my wall today, and my hunt would have been over. But,as it turned out, I collected the Muley, and a good black bear, both with the iron sights. In this case I was only 200 miles from home, by CJ 5 jeep, not 20 thousand miles away in Africa!

I vote for Irons on any rifle, I hunt with, except heavy barreled prarie dog, and paper shooters. Saeed, however, will tell you he doesn't use iron sights, and sees no need for the extra weight,But I'm not so sure of myself, and the weight/cost is neglegable!

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