The biggest rifle I have shoot is my .460 And I can handle it well and I dont feel the recoil to be hard. I just want to shoot a 900 grainer at 2700 FPS from a .600 OK-3
Posts: 751 | Location: sweden | Registered: 15 January 2002
.577 Nitro 3" on a Ruger #1 about 9.5lbs. Made me very dizzy and punch drunk. Guy asked me if I wanted another and said I'll pass. Prob the smartest thing I've ever done. Truly vicious.
Posts: 1259 | Location: Colusa CA U.S.A. | Registered: 27 June 2001
470 Mbogo's (Dave) 500 A-Square, with 600 grain bullets at about 2450 according to my chronograph. His rifle weighs about 10.5 lbs (no brake), and I think the recoil calculates out to be about 110 ft-lbs.
It was actually quite fun, but I did feel a little punchy after about 10 shots.
I'd love to tangle with the T-Rex someday.
Cheers, Canuck
Posts: 7123 | Location: The Rock (southern V.I.) | Registered: 27 February 2001
Once when I was 18 I was given the chance to shoot a 577 Rewa express,it was VERY IMPRESSIVE, but now a days I would say my 8bore when loaded with max loads is it, and its 14lbs now
Posts: 1529 | Location: Tidewater,Virginia | Registered: 12 August 2002
A 500 a-2 (now having one built) and my 500 3", which is extreamly light just under 8 1/2. I do not know which one kicks more in foot lbs, but I can assure you the 500 is not as pleasent! Hopefully I will be changing that with the buttstock.
Posts: 2045 | Location: West most midwestern town. | Registered: 13 June 2001
without a doubt, a too short too light 577 at 2050fps/750grn.... ~13lb, and 14.25 stock.... the third shot, I was flinching on SNAP CAPS.... first two, at 50, both hit the bull!!!
now, my 500 jeffe, when I load it to 2350... it's enough, but 470mbogo shot it like a 22.
Just finished building myself a .458 Lott that weighs in at 6.5# without scope, sling etc., 18 3/4" bbl, no brake. Shot in this configuration it is wild. I believe the free recoil energy is over 100 at 36 fps. With scope, sling and ammo it is right about 8#. After shooting 50 alaskans and 457 wwg mags I find it manageable if not comfortable.
Posts: 79 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 20 February 2003
50 3 1/4 Shiloh Sharps owned by a friend, don't know the bullet weight or load (cast hard lead bullet, grease grooved, smokeless load) but....
At 75yds, when the bullet hit the 1/2" thick stainless steel plate I was using for a target it picked it up 15' in the air and flung it almost to the 200 yard target line. When we went for a look the bullet had burned a neat .50cal hole RIGHT THROUGH the plate!
Recoil was to say the least "brisk" but manageable offhand in this 14lb rifle...
Posts: 45 | Location: Chattanooga, TN USA | Registered: 01 July 2003
Just a note of "big bore recoil", IMHO: Anyone shooting these "big bangers" should be doing it offhand. You are in a better geometric setup to absorb the recoil and muzzle climb. I know from an article in Double Gun Journal that Rigby only shoots their big doubles from a special standing rest (when they are "regulating" them).
Posts: 45 | Location: Chattanooga, TN USA | Registered: 01 July 2003
quote:Originally posted by Mike R. in TN: 50 3 1/4 Shiloh Sharps ...........
At 75yds, when the bullet hit the 1/2" thick stainless steel plate I was using for a target it picked it up 15' in the air and flung it almost to the 200 yard target line. When we went for a look the bullet had burned a neat .50cal hole RIGHT THROUGH the plate! ..........
Aren't you on the wrong thread? Isn't this supposed to be posted in the 'Over the Edge' Thread.
Posts: 6277 | Location: Not Likely, but close. | Registered: 12 August 2002
Mike R, how big was that plate you were shooting? I have shot some of the metallic sil. targets with my 500 and they flew and bounced a considerable distance, but not that far!
500 A2: It was about 8" or 10" in diameter as I recall. It really was a spectacular "hit"... As far as the "thrown distance"...believe what you want I made the shot
Posts: 45 | Location: Chattanooga, TN USA | Registered: 01 July 2003
Had a friend who had an 8 bore black powder double by Rodda. As I remember 1250 grain led conical bullets with around 275 grains black powder....the damn thing doubled on me...quite an experience to say the least....
Posts: 1678 | Location: Colorado, USA | Registered: 11 November 2002
quote:Originally posted by 500 A2: Mike R, how big was that plate you were shooting? I have shot some of the metallic sil. targets with my 500 and they flew and bounced a considerable distance, but not that far!
Lucs
And the army would be very interested in the metallurgical feat of getting cast lead through .5" steel plate.
Not too mention getting any target to fly through the air when the bullet perforates it so neatly.
It should move very little if this happens.
I think one of our trolls is trying some new personalities.
Karl.
Posts: 3533 | Location: various | Registered: 03 June 2000
I was not trying to imply the man was a liar! It was just that I have never seen a target moved that far, and was wondering how big his target was compared to what I have shot. I have shot holes in the metallic sil. targets I shot with the 500 A2, too. Even with a hole punched into them they moved alot! I cannot say with honestly that any of the metallic sil. targets flew for 100 yards through the air, though. As I recall most were knocked about 10 to 15 yards "in the air" and then rolled around for a few more yards before coming to rest. The metallic sil. targets are shaped like game animals, and the ones I have shot about 10" X 12" or so.
All this metallic target "knocking" around is unimpressive next to making gravel! I personally like to shoot rocks about the size of your head and watch then make gravel/dust clouds 30 feet in diameter! To me, anyway, that is cool!
It's all a matter of gun. I used to have a Winchester Trapper in 45 Colt, that with the hot 300gr loads I used would make me cry. 4lbs of gun with a hard butt plate on a BB gun sized stock. I've shot countless bigger guns that kicked a HELL of a lot MORE, but they didn't kick WORSE.
Ooh... that stupid little thing was nasty!
Posts: 723 | Location: Ny | Registered: 17 March 2002
After meeting the man, I don't see how any discussion of recoil can go on without mention of Kent Lomont. I believe he once shot his 4-bore ~75 times in one week, 10 or so in one afternoon. The loads he mentioned gave recoil numbers around 450 ft-lbs. I don't know how many here have met him, or even know of him, but after meeting him his stories are quite believable.
Posts: 94 | Location: Missouri | Registered: 16 July 2000
quote:Originally posted by cas: It's all a matter of gun. I used to have a Winchester Trapper in 45 Colt, that with the hot 300gr loads I used would make me cry. 4lbs of gun with a hard butt plate on a BB gun sized stock. I've shot countless bigger guns that kicked a HELL of a lot MORE, but they didn't kick WORSE.
Ooh... that stupid little thing was nasty!
oh, i'll take that off your hands..... want a savage striker in 708? or a walter p22
Ft-lbs of recoil isn't the total story. I once rechambered a Ruger No.3 (about 7.5 lbs) to 45-120 and loaded it to full 460 Weatherby specs with 500 grainers. While the ft-lbs numbers wouldn't match some of the really big thumpers, this was far and away the most painful gun I ever shot.
Posts: 1238 | Location: Lexington, Kentucky, USA | Registered: 04 February 2003
Have not really had that much experience with big guns, hard kickers were an 8 bore double hammer rifle black powder and a Westley Richards double droplock .577 Nitro (appropriately enough I sold it to Elmer Keith who wrote me it did not kick at all), but the most vicious nasty sharp whacks came from a .35 Newton Sedgely Springfield, weighed about 7 lbs, lots of drop in the stock, three shots were enough.
Painful? I had a suppressor come apart on me once while shooting a .300 Winchester from the bench. Blew appoximately a pound of internals 60-80 yards down range. I ended up with 12 stitches in my eyebrow. Man that really rang my bell. I'm surprised that it didn't give me a permanent flinch.
My buddy with the class II license learned a lot about suppressor design on my dime that day. And it wasn't even one of his suppressors that we were using. It came from a "name brand" mfgr, and depending on how you looked at it, it had a small manufacturing or design flaw. Needless to say even though it was rated for it, it couldn't stand up to the pressure of the magnum cartridge.
Regards, Scott
Posts: 117 | Location: Sierra Foothills, CA | Registered: 14 November 2001
THE 458 WIN MAG WASNT BAD AT ALL...STANDING. THEN MY NEW SUPERVISOR KEPT TELLING ME ABOUT HIS 460 WEATHERBY HE HAD BUT WOULDNT SHOW UP WITH IT. I CALLED HIM A LIAR AND PAID FOR IT. HE SHOWS UP WITH AN OLD, OLD WEATHERBY WITHOUT A BRAKE, AND THAT HUGE MONTE CARLO STOCK. THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WAS HOW LIGHT IT WAS, MUCH LIGHTER THAN THE 458 RUGER. A COUPLE GUYS WENT WITH US TO A PASTURE TO SHOOT IT. SO I WAS OFFERED THE FIRST SHOT, HE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE A BOX OF 500 GRAINERS FROM THE FACTORY...OH HAPPY DAY !!! YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN TROUBLE WHEN THE MAKER HAS TO HAVE A CUTOUT ON THE RECEIVER SO THE CARTRIDGES WILL FIT !! I SIGHTED IN ON AN OLD TELEPHONE POST BURIED IN THE GROUND AND TOUCHED IT OFF. LUCKY I WAS STANDING OR IT WOULD HAVE KILLED ME. BEING THAT THE OWNER WAS MY BOSS HE INSISTED THAT I TRY IT AGAIN. AND NOT WANTING TO LOOK LIKE A SISSY I DID. THE SECOND SHOT WASNT AS BAD...I THINK MY NERVES WERE NUMB. THE RIFLE WAS PASSED AROUND AND EVERYONE SHOT IT. WHEN IT CAME BACK MY WAY I NOTICED A DIFFERENT CARTRIDGE BEING CHAMBERED. "WHATS THAT" I ASKED. MY BOSS SMILED AND SAID "WE ALL SHOT SOME 350 GRAINERS I LOADED, U MIGHT LIKE THEM". WAS LIKE SHOOTING A 22 AFTER THOSE FACTORY 500'S. ON THE DRIVE BACK TO TOWN MY SHOULDER STARTED TO TINGLE...THEN ACHE, IT HASNT STOPPED YET !!!
GOOD LUCK AND GOOD SHOOTING
Posts: 849 | Location: Between Doan's Crossing and Red River Station | Registered: 22 July 2001
A .338 Ultramag in a 6lb ultralight Mountain Rifle by a Very famous Rifle builder who shall not be named!. M70 type steel recoil plate on a stock that was designed to simply not collapse under recoil. I think I actually lost two fillings with one shot!-Rob
Posts: 6314 | Location: Las Vegas,NV | Registered: 10 January 2001
from what I have read of Elmer Keith nothing would have seemed to kick to him. Didn't he shoot out the barrel of a 1903 with a steel butt plate getting ready for a Camp Perry match one time, from the prone position?
I think that little man had all his nerves froze to death up there in Montana and that's why he loved shooting the bigguns.
Red
Posts: 4742 | Location: Fresno, CA | Registered: 21 March 2003
When I first got my 45-70 TC, I loaded up some 400gn Barnes solids to 1675, they were very interesting to shoot, then I tried some 500gn JSP's at 1550 and it was a whole new ball game. It would shake your whole body, I thought it would rattle my fillings loose. The loads were too hot and I've backed off considereably since then. I couldn't keep the scope mount on and the recticle in the TC recoil proof scope got knocked off center.
The most painful gun I've ever shot was my 309 JDJ, but that was from muzzle blast, not recoil.
Posts: 2924 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 23 December 2002
I got the brilliant idea one time that I carry a gun more than I shoot it, read that in some damn gun magazine...
So I built a 7.5 Lb. 505 Gibbs...I mathamaticly set my iron sights up and went to the range..Now I am an old big bore shooter, file in sights etc. so I shoot at 50 yards, dead center wow! second shot hits the dirt half way to the target, now my eyes are watering and I'm somewhat out of focus, numb feeling, another shot, now tears and I feel really bad...Go home put an add in the gunlist, sell it to a doctor in Fl., he says he can shoot anything and it won't bother him...we trade guns he has a nice 404...he calls a week later and tells me the SOB disconected the whatchamacallit in his eye that he had operated on last year...I tell him send it back, he sez no, you told me it was horrible, so let the trade stand and I'll just sell it..Apparantly he did because I have seen this old dog for sale in the gunlist about twice a year for the last 4 years. No one keeps it long....It still demands a premium price I notice.
Posts: 42321 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000
AR-50 .50 BMG, 750 gr. at 2750 fps, not even in the running. 12 ga. 3.5" Nitro Company's turkey loads, laughable. M77 Ruger .458, 500 gr. 2052.9 fps, it at least gets your attention. M77 Mk II magnum 416 Rigby, 400 gr. at 2355 fps, a woman's load. The No. 1 .416 Rigby with 325 gr. at 2925 fps, now we are getting close, but the all time worst kicking gun I have ever fired has to be the Ruger No. 1 .45-70 with its 450 gr. bullets at 1825 fps, that 7.5 pound bitch just flat out hurts, Decelorator or not. I do NOT shoot that one from a bench.
quote:Originally posted by Jeremy: After meeting the man, I don't see how any discussion of recoil can go on without mention of Kent Lomont. I believe he once shot his 4-bore ~75 times in one week, 10 or so in one afternoon. The loads he mentioned gave recoil numbers around 450 ft-lbs. I don't know how many here have met him, or even know of him, but after meeting him his stories are quite believable.
I'm having trouble with my glasses this week. When I first read the above, I thought you said, "I don't know how many here have met him, or even know of him, but after meeting him his stones are quite believable."
Oh well. Makes sense either way.
Posts: 2272 | Location: PDR of Massachusetts | Registered: 23 January 2001
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