Hi!

Who makes .416 boat-tail bullets?
I'd like them in both 300 and 350 grains with a soft point or hollow point.

I know there exists bullets for the .416 Barret but that bullet is probably to long and heavy to achieve acceptable velocity in a .416 Rem.

Or should I just shut up and go for a 350 grain Barnes TSX instead?

Hey David

I am not aware of any boat tail bullets for the 416 other than those for the 416 Barret, of which I have samples of both the HP and the Solids. They are extremely long, and 390 grs. I did test some of these on buffalo, requested by JD, just as a test after the buff was down. They did well. You can load them in the 416 Remington, and probably get them up to speed easy enough, however you will not be able to feed through the magazine. I shot them in my very short 416 B&M case at over 2300 fps. The way they are designed the nose will go well into the throat and into the barrel. I think the BC on these is somewhere just under 1 million

I am not sure of your objectives, but these bullets are quite expensive, but what very little I have done with them they are very accurate too.

For me I like the 350 Barnes TSX for my objectives in all around use for 416 caliber. Very accurate, price is reasonable, and performance is fantastic on everything I have or my boys have used it on.

Michael

David,
If you can get them: .416/330-grain GSC HV
It is a copper monometal hollowpoint boattail.
Barnes TSX's are a low-tech version of this bullet.

Michael,
Are you saying they made a hollowpoint version of the Barrett .416/395-grain brass VLD solid? Was it copper or brass?

They would have to change the nose shape drastically to even allow a hollowpoint.
And since when does anyone besides Macifej make hunting rifle hollowpoints out of brass?
They work very well as .395/310-grain VeloHexploders.

RIP

The story goes like this, as I understand. JD helped barret design the 416 Barret, and has also been involved with the bullet design. David Fricke makes the bullets, and they are in fact brass, or a brass alloy--I won't state it for 100% fact,but they appear to be brass. David uses for the most part the brass and or the copper. He makes all the serious bullets I use in the 50's .500 diameter bullets, from the hollow points to the various solids I use. They are some of the finest bullets I have ever seen. I go with the copper because of the extra weight of the material over the brass.

In fact they did make a run of a hollow point design, I still have some samples. Looks like the same bullet as the pointy solid, just has a hollow point, and a bit shorter of course. Like all the brass CNC bullets the hollow point shatters, driving pieces in all directions, while the remaining slug continues to drive forward. They do this in my test work--and exactly the same in animal tissue.

David Fricke makes all sorts of hollow points from brass and copper. I am tied to him only thru SSK. I have never even talked to him. They are good bullets, well made, precise, extremely accurate.

JD had these way back in October of 2007 and sent several down for me to take to Africa to test on buffalo. Of course they were WAY to long to feed from the magazine of my little short 416 B&M WSM action, however they shot great and was able to run them over 2300 fps in that little gun with 20 inch barrel. I am very sure that a 416 Rem case would be able to get them to 2350-2400 fps, maybe better, but feeding them through the magazine is a different story. I have not tried them in 416 Remington as I am tied to the 416 B&M for now and future 416 caliber work. As far as them making the hollow points on a commercial basis I don't have an answer, normally things like that I get samples as prototypes, and since most of the time I don't keep up with it afterwards, especially something this specialized, I don't know what the current status of said bullet is? I can find out however if you want!

Michael

Good enough.
The GSC HV .416/330-grainer would be the best option for David. He might be able to get his hands on some if he tries.

RIP

Without doubt I agree the GSC HV would be the best choice, and probably much easier to get your hands on at reasonable prices. I forgot about those, and have no experience with them, hell never even seen one!

Michael

Here are the specs for the 330gr 416.

There is a 245gr in the pipeline as well. Will be done by mid February if we can find enough eland for test and if the market will take them.

The order process is much simplified from just last year. Order from the distributor in the USA.

Bulk shipping has brought the price down overall and for those who did not notice, GSC did not follow the copper price upward spiral.

The 330gr .416 HV is a versatile bullet. We have never seen one recovered on close shots and it can be used to reach out beyond normal 416 distances.