I found this gun in a local shop. Absolutely like new. The shop owner has fired the gun once. It's blued w/ wood stock and has an integral base for scope mounting. He is also including a Fed Premium box of 400 grain shells (-1) which is tagged $110 on the shelf. I don't really have a use for a gun that big, but am curious what it sells for new and what his asking price should be. I would think he has it reasonably priced. Having a 22-250, 30-06 and a 338 currently, I have everything I plan to hunt in the near future covered. Largest animal I've chased to date is elk. Any ideas on what a fair price for this set up would be?
Thanks,

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Shane Marquardt

If I recall, Ruger gets about $1350 for them.

However, as I prefer the CZ550 which sells for $650 to $750, I would probably only be willing to pay $500 for the Ruger, plus $40 for the ammo.

Ruger's suggested retail for the #1-H is $850, but they should be available for considerably less than that. There are several listed at gunsamerica.com right now from $480 to $575.

The Model 77 416 Rigby has a MSRP of $1695, but I think 500grains' price is probably more accurate.

500grains,

You are thinking about the Ruger 77 Express rifle,while Shane is talking about the #1.A #1 in the Rigby can be picked up out of Gun List new in the box for $575 any day of the week,or any current made caliber for the matter.

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Shane,
Ruger's Suggested Retail Price is $850; no one pays retail (at least they shouldn't).

The gunshop owner MAY have fired the gun only once , but that's no guarantee that the gun hasn't been fired extensively by the original owner.

A #1 in .416 Rigby is somewhat desirable, so I'd guess a fair price to be between $600-700, depending upon what sort of demographics the area has.

500grains,
You're thinking of bolt-action Express rifle, not the single-shot.

George

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Thanks for the quick response guys. He wants $600 with the box of ammo for it and is willing to take payments. I know the guy and understand he bought the gun new. Didn't get every detail as I wasn't really considering the gun at that time. I really have no use for a gun that big, but it sounded like a pretty good deal so I've been unable to shake the idea.
If the day ever came when I'd be able to afford an african hunt, (and that's a big if) I would think a controlled feed rifle to be a pretty big plus for that type of hunting. Either way it would be a fun gun to have and shoot once in a while and since I have started reloading, the cost of shells isn't as big of a factor.
How big a kick would the 416 really be? I'm 6'2, 225 #'s and have no problem shooting my 338 w/ 250 gr high energy loads. Just wondering what that comparison would be.

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Shane Marquardt

[This message has been edited by Shane in WI (edited 01-09-2002).]

Hi Shane,
Your question about recoil of a 338 Win and a 416 Rigby is a good one. If my calculations are correct, then the free recoil of a 9 lb 338 shooting a 250 gr bullet at 2700 fps should be about 38 lbs. A 10 lb Rigby shooting a 400 gr bullet at 2400 fps would have about 69 lbs of free recoil. It's not unmanageable at all but it does take a bit of getting used to. And if you're like some of us, then once you get accustomed to the 416 Rigby, then you get curious about things like a 470 or 500 NE, a 470 Capstick, or maybe a 585 Nyati. I'd say buy the rifle if you like it--you can always sell it to someone on this site if you need to!
Good hunting!

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Andy Cooper

Shane,

If you want a 416, then thats reason enough. Sounds like a fair price for the gun and ammo.

As far as the recoil, I've never shot a 416 rigby, but I did move up from a 35 whelen ackley, pushing 250's 2700 fps to a 458 lott, and while there was a noteable increase in recoil, it was not unbearable. The largest factor in dealing with recoil is mental attitude, if you want to shoot a 416, you have one the battle. Just set up so you won't be hurt, and work in to it.

The #1 is a class act rifle, and the 416 Rigby is a class act round, go get it!

Shane, $600 for the rifle and a box of ammo is a good price if the rifle is in excellent shape, and it sounds like it is.
I had one of these two years ago, as I had always wanted to fool with the cartridge. Brass is available from Bell and Norma, and Lyman makes a die set for under $19 from Grafs. I was expecting to have the hell kicked out of me with the factory spec load with a Hornady 400-grain RN, but I was quite surprised to find that I have had more abuse from a .338. I did mount a Declerator pad, though. I had a lot of fun shooting the excellent RCBS 350-grain cast gas-checked bullet in the Rigby. With 52 grains of XMP5744, it gave groups under 1.25 inches at 100 yards at about 2000 fps. I am only hoping my rechambered .450 NE No. 1 is as accurate and pleasant shooting.

Thanks for all the responses. At least for now I've decided to let the deal pass. Just can't picture myself0 hunting with that rifle. (and I've tried to come up with a reason too) Maybe he'll still have it in a few months and I'll change my mind. Too many other projects right now.

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Shane Marquardt

Hello Shane,

From one Wisconsinite to another, would you mind sharing with me what gun shop this lonely rifle resides at? I've got a rationalization beginning here. Thanks.

Jason - Lake Geneva, WI.

I sent you an e-mail with the information.

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Shane Marquardt