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Going to Masailand in early March. Had a used Vari III Leupold 1.5-5 scope with a heavy duplex scope. It's not working. Has a lot of paralax and the "heavy" duplex is just too heavy for my taste. Can't shoot acceptable groups beyond 50 yards. I know, probably fine, but I can't do what I would like at 100 -- not that I'll ever shoot that rifle at that distance. It shoots great with irons. Leaving in two months. My inclination is a 1.5-5 Leupold regular duplex that I can just strap into the Talleys that are already there. Welcome any thoughts, but don't have a lot of time; so keep it simple. | ||
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Trijicon is the scope that I put on my 458 Lott. It is the lowest power with the post they make. Works like a charm. Plenty of eye relief if you don't creep up on it. | |||
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Contact Leupold and ask them how long it would take to change the reticle to either standard duplex or German #4 (orequivalent) and check the scope. They might be able to accommodate you. Barring that, look for a Leupold 2.5x (also sold as 3x) made for rifles (not shotguns). George  | |||
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#1, send it back to Leupold immediately and call them and tell them it's coming and when you leave for safari. They should have it fixed and back to you promptly for your sight-in. As to the reticle, the heavy duplex you have is frequently recommended in that scope for use on DG as it is faster to center on the animal and also easier to see with aging eyesight because the heavy lines draw the eye immediately to the center. I have two of the Leupold 1.5-5x on my DG rifles and both are 30mm with the illuminated circle-dot reticle, which I find to be the absolute fastest DG reticle in any form - I also have it in EOTech red dot sights. I used the heavy duplex prior to these reticles coming on the market. I cannot imagine why a heavy duplex should have any effect on 100 yard shooting. I have it in my Leupold 3-9x50 on my PG Browning .300wm and have taken more than 60 head of african game out to 400 yards without issue. BTW, if you insist upon a regular duplex, ask Leupold to replace it in your existing scope; they will do it. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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If you are experiencing parallax issues at 100 yds I would get the scope back to Leupold asap, there is a problem. I agree also to have them toss in the regular reticle if the heavy is too much. I bet they can have it back quickly if you tell them your situation. | |||
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NXS Nightforce 1-4 with NP-1 retcile would be my choice if you want a finer reticle as tough as nails, illuminated and great glass. | |||
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Try the new Leupold VX-R, illuminated duplex, 30mm tube, very reasonably priced. I have one on a Lott and like it. BUTCH C'est Tout Bon (It is all good) | |||
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If you shoot the Lott a lot, then IMO the only scope that will continue to hold up to the recoil is the Leupold 2.5X compact, most scopes crash from 25 rounds to as much as 250 rounds it seems to me... The 2.5X Leupold has the adjustments directly under the caps... I have trashed and seen so many failures with scopes on the Lott and up, that I opt for irons, or a receiver sight..They are both accurate to 200 yards. Also in a hunting situation you can get into some unkind positions to shoot, and many a bloody eyebrow or nose bridge has been sewed up in Safari camp, and more than a few have been flown out to the local hospital, it happens to one degree or another every year. I know lots of folks are happy with certain scopes on the big bores, but one wonders how much they have actually shot them..The number of scope failures on big bores in safari camps is considerable in my experience. Add to that that these biggest of bores are not, nor were they ever intended to be long range calibers, they are short range stoppers. I see little reason to try and make them otherwise, you don't need that kind of power at 100 or 200 yards, a 375 is as good a buffalo gun at those ranges as a 458 Lott, your not in much danger at that range. Just my opine, for what its worth and isn't a requirement!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Nothing wrong with the Leupold[s]. But, if you can, take a look at the U.S. Optics 4X. Excellent optics, and hell for stout. Good hunting. | |||
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You, Phil Shoemaker and John Barsness all suggest the Leupold 2.5x20. That was enough for me to re-evaluate my "need" for a 1-4x on my 458. I ordered the 2.5x20 Leupold. Should be here later today. ____________________________________________ "If a man can't trust himself to carry a loaded rifle out of camp without risk of shooting somebody, then he has no business ever handling a rifle at all and should take up golf or tennis instead." John Taylor Ruger Alaskan 416 Ruger African 223 | |||
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twenty- seven years of use on my 458 and this little 2 1/2X compact Leupold is still going strong  Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I have been a Leupold user for years but have tried out Nikon 2-8 over the last three years on some 416s and 338s. They have been great, clear and with good eye-relief. However, I now have two of their Slughunters [(1.65-5 power) with 5.0" eye-relief at all magnifications] waiting on a 500 AccR being built. These are clear, good glass, great eye-relief, and are intended for heavy recoil. I am expecting good results because of the way the 2-8 Nikons have held up on 6000+ ftlb loads in 416 Rigby. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Trust me, no one has more trigger time behind big kickers than I do and the Leupold 2.5 x is the scope to beat. Do as you like!-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Thanks for all the advice. Ray, I agree with everything you had to say. I'm thinking about a 2X, it's all I'll ever need and will give me a little more eye relief. Rifle will mostly be used with the peep, but the scope would be helpful if I needed to stretch it out to 100 yards -- old eyes. Not likely on buffalo or eles, but might need it on targets of opportunity. | |||
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i took the Leupy scope off my Lott since it's plain black crosshairs got lost against the (also black) buff in a couple of instances. Replaced with Trijicon. Problem solved! Jack Hood DRSS | |||
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I have never had a problem with scope damage except on the 458 Lott and up..About any scope will fair well on any 338, 375, 9.3s or the 40 calibers... Wow 415! I never had any problem with black cross hairs on black bulls, not even at night, but thats just my experience. I know some folks like those red light bulbs in there scopes for shooting Leopard at night. I don't know if thats real or imagened! I recall the old Weavers with those thin cross hairs were hard to see anything with at night and not much better in the daylight..I use the standard duplex's almost exclusively.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I had a 2.5x leupold on my .585 Nyati and it lasted a couple hundred shots and then sounded like a childs rattle. I will try the NXS 1-4 on my impending .500 A-Square. My thoughts are it will be much more durable. NXS nightforce scopes leave leupold for dead IMHO, but there pricepoint is not the same either. I think a 10.34 pound 500 A Sqaure will be a good test for the NXS. | |||
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Every scope has design limits and I guess your 585 Nyati must exceed those of the Leupold 2.5x. For most people though, rifles as large as the 585 are considered useful only for large dangerous game at rock throwing distances and wear iron sights. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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