Hi
I have this theory that the Europe stocked CZ guns, if properly prepared, are better stocks then the American, "Custom" guns.

Now, a few ground rules. Since the guns are made in Europe, and, it takes time get enough of em together to ship, it makes sense that this time would give the stocks time to warp, or dry out, while they await shipping, and, while they sit on shelves waiting for someone to buy them.

So, if you took your brand new .458 Lott out, and, without having a gunsmith check the gun for stock to action fit, and, the stock broke, please don't post here.

This thread is only for people that took their guns to a gunsmith PRIOR to shooting them, to check the stock to action fit, and, or had the gun custom bedded.

Since this forum is the .375 H&H and up, I'll start.

I had my gun checked by JRH Advanced Gunsmithing, prior to shooting. Jack found the stock to action fit was excellent, not allowing any running start for the action to break the stock. It has a beautiful piece of dark Turkish Walnut, by the way, and, was XXX dollars, used CZ rep gun.

No broken Euro stocks??? If properly preped?

I think it's likey no or few broken Euro stocks, prepped or not. My 602 is factory: no bedding, cross bolts or mods other than a merc tube in the butt. It was a 458 Win now chambered for 450 Ackley and it holds up just fine.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
I think it's likey no or few broken Euro stocks, prepped or not. My 602 is factory: no bedding, cross bolts or mods other than a merc tube in the butt. It was a 458 Win now chambered for 450 Ackley and it holds up just fine.

I suspected as much. When I bought my CZ, the rep forgot to put the firing pin in the gun, and it took over three months to get the RIGHT firing pin, and, have it put in place...

I DID NOT take my 416 Rigby to a gunsmith to check the stock fit, and it works just fine so far. It's a "european" style stock.

IF the wood is properly seasoned before it becomes a stock, it should not warp or shrink much after it is shaped.

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Originally posted by El Deguello:
I DID NOT take my 416 Rigby to a gunsmith to check the stock fit, and it works just fine so far. It's a "european" style stock.

IF the wood is properly seasoned before it becomes a stock, it should not warp or shrink much after it is shaped.

Cz was selling the CZ 550's for about 500 bucks when I bought mine. At that price range, a quick trip to make sure the stock was seasoned right is not out of line.

Had my first CZ in the mid-80's. Own 4 currently, one since '93 (my "everyday gun", in .375). All of them from Europe, some direct import from Brno.

Never had any stock problem. I glass-bedded most of them, and put cross-bolts in some - more because I wanted to do it than for any particular technical reason.

Mine failed but only after I fell 4 feet off the truck onto the wrist. Broke it into 4 pieces, split longitudinally and horizontally. I think the stock saved my hip and pelvis.

I have a CZ (hogback)in 416 Rigby. It was an early one with only 1 crossbolt. I did NOT take it to a gunsmith to check it out. Just put a scope on it and shot it. Never had a problem. I did get scared last year and had Westpac put an American stock with 2 crossbolts already installed. He also installed a muzzle brake. Again, NO problems..
Peter

CZ guns from the czeck republic are all coming with turkish walnut...not american black.
that difference and the number of cross grained black walnut blanks i have seen on the cz america guns is why they are having problems.

nothing to do with seasoning, they are in all likelyhood kiln dried anyway, so any warping or any other potential problem will have occured in the drying stage.

american black walnut and cross grained leads to a broken stock. its that damn simple.

Guntoter, to my uneducated brain, walnut is walnut! I am of couse aware of all the different names but don't know what they look like, or the pros and cons. Do have pictures you can post of Turkish and American walnut?
Thanks, Peter.

I have a hogsback on a 458 that cracked forward of the magazine, from the front action screw almost to the barrel lug screw. Some epoxy and internal crossbolting took care of the problem. This stock had a single crossbolt just forward of the rear action screw and is sn H60XX.

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Originally posted by 86thecat:
I have a hogsback on a 458 that cracked forward of the magazine, from the front action screw almost to the barrel lug screw. Some epoxy and internal crossbolting took care of the problem. This stock had a single crossbolt just forward of the rear action screw and is sn H60XX.

Had the gun been checked, bedded, prior to shooting?