It's me or the ruger rifles are not well balanced?
I like them very much but I always feel that the barrel is too heavy, at least in some models (n�1 and express).
LG

I agree with you. Personally, I think that Ruger rifles are pieces of junk. A Remington 700 is ten times the rifle.

Kent

Lorenzo,

I agree with kent and I add consider a CZ rifle. You'll be happy with its accuracy and its price.

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Current production Rugers are junk.

So are Rem 700.

So are Winchester push feed.

So are Savage.

IMHO

Whoops! I beg to differ. I have a Ruger #1 that not only is more beautiful than any bolt action, but it'll hold up to WAY more pressure than the bolt actions. I haven't handled a Ruger77...I guess the triggers aren't that good, though. Just my 2 cents.

Old4x4,
I'm not saying that they aren't beautiful guns, but I've used a 375H&H and a 416 Rigby and I feel that the barrels where too heavy, I agree with you, the N� 1 is a very beautiful rifle.......with a very heavy barrel

I understand that Ruger has lightened them up due to consumer complaints on the heavy barrel subject, now the complaint will be recoil probably....

I believe the Ruger Safari is a lot of gun for the money...It certainly puts the rest to shame, a "intregal" 1/4 rib alone cost about $3000 if you order a custom barrel fitted up that way...Circasion Walnut, no other factory rifle has that kind of wood on it. control feed, barrel band front sight and barrel band swivel, Mod. 70 wing safty, An action thats big enough for a 416 Rigby, Inside the trigger guard floorplate release,all these little custom features cost big time bucks...

Now tell me what features other factory rifles have to compare with the Ruger..I gave you facts, now give me facts back, not BS...

I don't own one because I make my own and use Mauser actions but I sure think there is a lot of value there, the problem is lots of folks don't know enough about guns to judge one....I suspect like a lot of fac rifles they need some work if your life is on the line, however we have two in our Tanz. camp for hunters to use and they have been good guns and trouble free, both in 416 Rigby.

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All the Rugers except the #1 & the ssa are junk.

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Ray is right on target.

The Ruger 77RSM is the most gun for your money. If you had some of Rugers features added to another brand rifle in their custom shop the price would be staggering. Quarter rib machined integral with the barrel, 3000 dollars. Fancy Circassion walnut stock, 1200 dollars. Ebony tip, 125 dollars. Express rear sight and banded front, 375 dollars. Barrel band sling stud, 125 dollars. Model 70 type swing safety. Controlled round feed. Action designed from the ground up for large cartridges, not modified from something else. Intregral scope bases. Rings furnished. Stock dimensions are correct for iron sights and scope (try to get that with another brand factory rifle).

I own a Ruger 77RSM in 416 Rigby. The trigger was too heavy but with a little work I had a crisp 3 lb pull. The recoil pad is hard, easily replaced with a kick eez pad. The safety is a little dainty, build up with tig weld and reblue. The recoil lug system is really strange looking but don't look a gift horse in the mouth. My first trip to the range it posted a .865 inch group with 400 gr Hornadys loaded wide open. My barrel is the .835 heavy version but as mentioned above Ruger has brought a lighter barrel now that handles and points better. Also if you like the 375 H&H the Ruger is very well balanced and points like a fine shotgun.

A lot of folks think that the CZ is the better buy due to the low initial cost. I think if they honestly kept track of expenses needed to restock and other refinements needed to make the gun hunt ready they would find that they were spending more money in the end. I do think CZ is a high quality gun, just an awful stock and not as refined as the Ruger.

Back to your question Lorenzo. Check out the new Ruger RSM, the barrel used to be .810 at the muzzle but now they are about .750 and 1 or 2 inches shorter, giving them much better balance and pointing qualities.

I'm to recieve my M77 RSM 375 in a few days and I'm looking forward to it. My friend own a bunch of the SS 77's in small calibers and they shoot great with a trigger job.

A piece of junk ??? I beg to differ !!

My M77 in 338 win mag has close to 1000 rounds thrugh it, an it shoots like a dream, at least as good as I�m able to.No cracking stock albeit the "strange" recoil lug , no bedding done, no trigger adjustment done, it is as it came out of the box, and behold !!! It works, and it works good.
Even the standard scope rings work !

I got another M77 in ss and composite stock at the smith to be rebarreld in 35 Whelen.

I cant afford custom rifles and are stuck with regulars off the mill, and I see no reason to abandon my Rugers as they have stood by me so far.

Arild

Wouldn't trade my early M-77s for a bushel basket of Rems or Wins

Craftsman,
You're wright, the model I tested was the old one, I would like to see the new model with the thinner barrel.
I repeat, I like Rugers, Remingtons,Winchesters, push feed, control round feed, etc, and all american rifles, they are good by every standard.
As they already change the heavy barrel, the only things I will still like to change in the Magnum Rugers are:
1) front iron sights
2)Bigger safety
3)Two cross recoil bolts/lugs (I don't know how to say it in english) instead of one, just because they look nice
LG

[This message has been edited by Lorenzo (edited 02-01-2002).]

I have a Ruger Magnum in .416 Rigby with the lighter, shorter barrel and in my opinion it balances quite nicely. To me it handles very shotgun like with the right amount of muzzle weight. Not bad for an off the rack rifle weighing 9.75 lbs..
As stated before it is a helluva value for what you get. Especially the integral barrel. According to R.L. Wilson in his book, Ruger and his guns,it takes approximately 7 hours to machine each barrel exclusive of fitting and finishing! Dakota offers quarter ribs as an option, that aren't integral, for something like $700! What's a better value? (I know apples and oranges.)
There many small nagging things I would like to change such as grinding off the "recoil nub" on the receiver, cutting a dovetail and tig welding a proper lug on. The same could be done with the lug on the bottom of the barrel. Of course this would involve re-stocking the rifle in proper turkish, maybe bastogne. However, after 500+ full power and extra power round my stock has not cracked. I think the safety could be done better. I wish Ruger would just bit the bullet and go to a M70 type 3 position. Sights to resemble something more like good revolver sights would be nice. And and...

I own three "junk" #1s and an assortment of "junk" Ruger handguns.

Love the heavy barrel. Hate the factory trigger. Love the quarter rib. Hate the factory recoil pad.

#1s are easily put into the shape I want and they are strong as hell. Accuracy is fully acceptable and can certainly be improved without spending a wad of cash.

And, for such a piece of junk, the Ruger #1 is certainly been accepted with open arms by the hunters of the world.

I had no idea I and many others were so foolish....

~Holmes