THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM BIG BORE FORUMS

Accuratereloading.com    The Accurate Reloading Forums    THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS  Hop To Forum Categories  Rifles  Hop To Forums  Big Bores    500 Jeffery / Appropriate Mauser Action

Moderators: jeffeosso
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
500 Jeffery / Appropriate Mauser Action Login/Join
 
one of us
Picture of fla3006
posted
Is a full-size magnum length Mauser action necessary for the 500 Jeff? After reviewing the dimensions, it looks like it may be possible to use a standard length Mauser action for this formidable round rather than something like a Brevex, which I find cumbersome. Any advice or experience? Thanks in advance.
 
Posts: 9487 | Location: Texas Hill Country | Registered: 11 January 2002Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Yes, it will fit in a standard length action. The March '98 issue of Rifle Magazine has a good article that details the modifications required.
 
Posts: 497 | Location: Lewistown, PA USA | Registered: 21 December 2000Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Wildcatter
posted Hide Post
fla3006,

The 500 Jeffery cartridge was "designed" for the standard Mauser action. If you look at the case, it is of a rebated rim design so that the standard bolt may be opened up to suit. The case length is 2.750 long and the COAL allows it to fit any action that will take a 375.

The only problem is the magazine. Original Jeffery rifles had a special magazine that was essentially a single stack. They held 2 if they wher flush and 3 if the stock had belly.

I would really like to know if there is someone out there making the old Schuler replacement bottom metal or kits for the mauser 98. If anyone hears of such a thing, let me know.

-Catter

 
Posts: 789 | Location: Central Texas, U.S. | Registered: 20 December 2001Reply With Quote
<Norbert>
posted
quote:
Originally posted by Wildcatter:
I would really like to know if there is someone out there making the old Schuler replacement bottom metal or kits for the mauser 98. ....

I don�t know, what "bottom metal" means. The Schueler concept uses a blade spring to push the top cartridge aside under the rails. This to avoid the need of an extrem wide magazine needed for the original zig-zag layered cartridges. The magazine has to be opened for the larger diameter by cutting and welding.
I think, the Westley-Richards approach with two clips and staggered cartridges is better.

------------------

 
Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
/
 
Posts: 7857 | Registered: 16 August 2000Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Alf,

I remember your previous post with pics of your .500 Jeffery. Nice looking gun. Where did you get the bottom metal for your rifle? Is it on piece, or no? I remeber you said Germany, but gave no further specifics. I have been toying with the idea of a .500 Jeffery for some time and need all the information I can get my hands on.

 
Posts: 1244 | Location: Golden, CO | Registered: 05 April 2001Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
/
 
Posts: 7857 | Registered: 16 August 2000Reply With Quote
<Pfeifer>
posted
Alf,
Love to see the picts again if they are handy! Thanks Jeff P
 
Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
/
 
Posts: 7857 | Registered: 16 August 2000Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
/
 
Posts: 7857 | Registered: 16 August 2000Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of BW
posted Hide Post

[This message has been edited by BW (edited 01-15-2002).]

 
Posts: 778 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Alf,

I could open those pictures by going to properties and copyin the address.

No one ever mentions the rebated rim of 378, 416 and 460 Wbys.

In this case it is made even worse because of the bolt design. The Wby bolt turns all cases into "rebated" rims.

Mike

 
Posts: 7206 | Location: Sydney, Australia | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Mike, could you explain that? How does a bolt "make" a rebated rim, if the case has not one from the beginning?

Hermann

------------------

 
Posts: 828 | Location: Europe | Registered: 13 June 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Hermann,

The Weatherby Mark V has the three
rows of locking lugs.

When the bolt is in the open position
one row of lugs is at the bottom.
Thus when you pull the Weatherby bolt back
the bottom row of lugs drag across the
case head and belt etc.

The lugs are full bolt diameter but
the bolt nose protrudes out beyond the
lugs and is smaller in diameter.

That is why Weatberbys have very strong
magazine springs in them.

The 378 case also has a rebated rim
which adds to the problem.

However what saves the day most times
is the Wbys based on the 378 case
use a vertical stack magazine which
always simplifies problems.

Mike

[This message has been edited by Mike375 (edited 01-17-2002).]

 
Posts: 7206 | Location: Sydney, Australia | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
<500N>
posted
The 500 J is fine on a Standard Mauser 98. As has been commented, the feeding from the magazine seems to be the trickiest to get right.

Another action to consider is the Brno 602 (or CZ550), particularly if you want more in the magzine.

A number of Custom 500 J's have been built in Australia with my one being copied directly from an original 500 J.

500N

 
Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 

Accuratereloading.com    The Accurate Reloading Forums    THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS  Hop To Forum Categories  Rifles  Hop To Forums  Big Bores    500 Jeffery / Appropriate Mauser Action

Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia