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I've been researching and toying with the idea of ordering a CZ action to upgrade and add on as I go along. Sorta like starting a dream rifle for Africa in the future. This rifle will probably take 2-3 years before completion.

Am looking at this site because it's more than 100 dollars cheaper than the exact same thing on Brownell's...

So, do I just barge into any gun store and demand that the FFL holder order the action off that site for me? How does this work? And how much does the person with the FFL usually charge? [Confused]

Any help would be extremely appreciated! [Smile]

Thank you for even reading this.
 
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Go to this website and type in your telephone area code

http://www.gunsamerica.com/transfer.cgi

It'll throw up the names of a bunch of guys with FFL's, their phone numbers, and how much they charge. Prices vary, but if a guy is getting more than about $15 to do a transfer for you then he's ripping you off.

You should be able to call the place you're ordering the action from, pay for it, then tell them to ship to your FFL holder for transfer. You'll need a signed copy of the FFL holder's license to send to the place you're ordering from. They'll keep the license on file and ship the action to him. The FFL holder will do the paperwork and background check then give you the action.
 
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Okay, got it thanks!
 
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i think if you barge into a store and demand the the person order something from a distributor that they normally don't use, you will not be greeted with open arms. the holder of the ffl is in business to make money, which means a profit. they are also in busuness to hopefully nurture happy clients. with the proper approach i think you will be able to work some kind of deal.
the cost is what the market will allow. in my area no one does transfers for much less than thirty dollars. one store gets fifty dollars to use their license and twenty for the actual paperwork. some may look at this as a rip but others look at it as paying for a service that they want.
good luck in your project
 
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Will I be greeted with shouldered arms? [Eek!] [Big Grin]

J/K Of course I won't be rude or anything to the dealer. On that site I saw some places with pretty good tranfer rates. [Smile]

I'll just pay for it at that site and have it go through the FFL holder like boltman advised.

Oh, you think it's a good idea to order all the parts first THEN send it to a gunsmith to put it all together?

That's probably what I'm gonna do. I don't think the rest of the rifle parts need to go through a FFL holder...

Thanks for the replies!
 
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HM2,
this is a susual practice, to order things not in stock. For making 2 phone calls, one to order and one to the fbi, 20 bucks aint a bad deal.

Please review the link from gunbroker and call a couple of the ffls, and ask them what they would charge to receive and transfer an action for you.

30 bucks? i would laugh my a$$ off and hang up.

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Yeah, more than $15 is a ripoff. Heaven forbid the guy expect you to pay him enough for a decent lunch somewhere in exchange for the use of the license he had to purchase, the extra taxes he incurred, making his personal life open for inspection by government agencies, and the risk of a felony conviction for making a minor clerical errors. All those guys that start their own business and expect to make a living off it are assholes!
 
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Originally posted by Urodoji:
Yeah, more than $15 is a ripoff. Heaven forbid the guy expect you to pay him enough for a decent lunch somewhere in exchange for the use of the license he had to purchase, the extra taxes he incurred, making his personal life open for inspection by government agencies, and the risk of a felony conviction for making a minor clerical errors. All those guys that start their own business and expect to make a living off it are assholes!

2 phone calls ...going rate is 10-20 bucks... even at pawn shops.

get around it, if not over it

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It depends on where you live. Here in the Recall state of Calif., you can expect to pay $50-$75 for an "special" order. Like most things in Calif. it sucks, but not much else you can do.
 
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I wish I could find an FFL that would do the paper work for under $25 here in NY. Some want as much as $50, one had the B*.*lls to ask for a % of the cost of the rifle. I will never do business with him!!!!!
 
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This is why you need to find a good local dealer. Buy from him, he'll be more than happy to recieve actions and internet guns for you for the 20 or so dollars normally quoted.

But absolutely, any more than $25 is too much. Just my opinion, but it's a simple thing to do, and there's no out of pocket expense for the dealer except a stamp and an envelope. Also, now the dealer builds good customer relations. Who are you going to do business with? The guy who wants 50 bucks or the guy who charges 20? Who are you going to go to for ammo? Hunting licenses? The little things that always seem to add up?
 
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MAN!!!!!
DON'T ANY of you guys spend any time or money in a local gunshop?

I can think of 3 shops near me right off the top of my head that would give me the FFL and do the paperwork for FREE, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH,
Because they KNOW me as a customer. They KNOW that what ever I buy on special order will require additional supplies or accessories that I will buy from them.
They are in busines to make money and I know that.

At the one shop I had a few guns to sell on consignment and instead of piecemealing the guns and waiting for his commissions, I asked if he wanted his "end" up front and offered him a NIB Ruger .22 magnum(I won it at a competition and it just sat gathering dust), his to do with as he pleased before he sold a single gun. He could sell it for what ever he wanted to because it didn't cost him anything. He made a little more then his consignments would have been had he gone the other way and he has NEVER charged me his listed price for anything since then. I always get some kind of cut and he sends out FFLs anytime for me with NO CHARGE for the transfer. Also if I am looking for something, he will order anything for me up to about $1000 with no money up front, with just a phone call because HE KNOWS ME.

Get to know and support the local guys and they WILL help you with the special stuff.
 
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The reason I posted that more than $15 is a ripoff is because I have a FFL and I know how little work is involved in doing a transfer. I have never charged anyone a dime to do a transfer and if the LSG lived near me I would offer to do it for him for free. Yes, gun dealers are in business to make money but $15 is enough for the little work involved. $50 for a transfer is like walking into the local hardware store and having them try and sell you a shovel for $50. Hey, they have to make money too, right?
 
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For my customers, the ones I do work for and build rifles, I do not charge any "transfer fee". Receiving the action and filling out the paperwork is part of the job. Takes 5 minutes for the paperwork and the phone call. $50 is a joke.

However, as I am not in the business of buying and selling factory guns, I do not receive guns for individuals. I do not want a herd of guys pestering me to receive their internet bargain, takes too much time out from the shop work. Lots of other guys with FFL's are available to do the receiving. I received a few for a gent, then it got to be a pain, he was buying "bargains" on the net for his collection. Then his friends wanted the same treatment. Got tired of boxes showing up with 4 or 5 rifles and shotguns, had to nicely tell them to go elsewhere.

But, if I receive an action, not from the customer, and ship the completed rifle, then if out of state, the rifle must go through an FFL. Customer has to give me the address of an FFL holder and a signed copy of the destinaton FFL's license.

My advice is to find a gunshop, with a FFL, do business with the shop, and discuss the FFL and receiving question. IMHO if a shop buys and sells guns, they are in the business, know the requirements, fill out paperwork each day, do the phone calls, etc, so they should be capable of making the phone call and filling out the forms for you. Find a good gun shop and support it, when the gun shops are out of business, guess what, the firearms will be real hard to obtain.
 
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You wanna know how to really piss off your ffl? Go to his shop, and ask him to do a transfer for you, and have him see that you paid more for it than he would have charged you in the first place.
 
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