What the heck is a .423 Dakota?

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03 July 2012, 03:27

PSmith

What the heck is a .423 Dakota?

Hey there Gents,

So what is a .423 Dakota cartridge? I understand it was once a Dakota factory offering, now discontinued.

The current .404 Dakota uses a .423 bullet; is the .423 Dakota the same thing and just a different name or something else entirely?

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03 July 2012, 04:12

GeorgeS

It's a rimless design, having a .585″ head and are 2.475″ in length.

The .404 Dakota uses brass with a .545" head, ~~2.85"~~ 2.57" long.

George

03 July 2012, 04:32

Biebs

The 404 Dakota is based on a 404 Jeffery case, the 423 is sometimes referred to an the 423 Dakota-Lapua, based on the use of the Lapua case as its parent, as I understand it.

Paul, I'd buy one of each to make sure you have what you want :-)

03 July 2012, 05:12

RIP

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GeorgeS:
It's a rimless design, having a .585″ head and are 2.475″ in length.

The .404 Dakota uses brass with a .545" head, 2.85" long.

George[/QUOTE)

Correct except the 404 Dakota is not 2.85" in brass length.
It is also a "short" but just a little over 2.5" long.

The ".423 Dakota-Lapua" (what they called it when Charlie Kokesh was leading them into bankruptcy)
was a joint development of Dakota and Lapua IIRC.
Shorter and fatter than most, just like Charlie Kokesh.

05 July 2012, 19:51

PSmith

Thanks for the laughs guys! And the info.

06 July 2012, 03:38

RIP

I developed a .423/.338 Lapua Magnum about the same time,
independent of Charlie Kokesh.
Mine had brass of 2.700" length, not 2.4-ish inches.
However, I found it was no improvement over the
standard 404 Jeffery.
So I turned that one into the
"404/.416 Rigby Improved Plus" with 2.9" brass.
I call it the 404 RIP.
It beats the 404 Jeffery by a little,
but it beats the .416 Rigby by a lot!
Dakota M76 African action, McGowen barrel.

Unfortunately the stock is MPI.

06 July 2012, 04:24

jeffeosso

.........../338 lapua parent 416 rigby
423 dakota
...........\ 404 jeffrey

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06 July 2012, 19:05

PSmith

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
.........../338 lapua parent 416 rigby
423 dakota
...........\ 404 jeffrey

Damn good pedigree

06 July 2012, 19:51

capoward

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
.........../338 lapua parent 416 rigby
423 dakota
...........\ 404 jeffrey

??? Not quite sure what this is trying to say. But hopefully this...

423 Dakota - parent case is 338 Lapua Mag - parent case is 416 Rigby
404 Dakota - parent case is 404 Jeffery